Is removing bushes ingame something we should consider cheating?

[Molly]

I know there was a thread about this before but I couldn't find it.

I played on a certain map - all beach, few constructs with a tower and a lot of high grass - and while I was reloading in said high grass I got shot. Figured it must have been a lucky random hit, moved a few steps sideways and started reloading again and got hit by an arrows once more which killed me.
So, I got curious and checked on that player who killed me. After a few seconds I realized what was going on:

While I was spectating said player shot at targets I couldn't make out and I checked his points now and then. They kept rising. He even killed a guy with a headshot which I couldn't see as spectator.
I kept spectating whenever I was dead and it was just painfully obvious that this player was shooting at targets I couldn't see behind the high grass simply because he didn't see it.

I know it's difficult and can't be checked technically but when it's so obvious... is there anything that we can do? Should we even do something about it?

[Tanken]

Post the player's name so we can publicly shame them. Shoot first, ask questions later.

[Grumbs]

Yes but its not against the rules afaik

[Joseph Porta]

Fuck yes, its is 200% immersion breaking, hiding in the bushes lost it's meaning, it removes the aspect of surprise. So gey aswell

[Grumbs]

Just to be clear..common sense rule should apply imo, but we had several threads were it was suggested by devs that its not a big deal so you can mod what you like

[vipere]

15 : 35

thats how ghost bush look like.

[Jack1]

It is an exploit that gives unfair advantages. Any remodeling of textures other than things like the loom pack should be punishable. There is no need for any of that except to gain an unfair advantage and ruin your own immersion.

The video in the OP of this other thread shows just about of all the mods that should be bannable.  http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/cavalry-being-reared-from-the-side/

[F i n]

I'd ban ppl i see doing that.

[matt2507]

Fuck yes, its is 200% immersion breaking, hiding in the bushes lost it's meaning, it removes the aspect of surprise. So gey aswell

being the fact that you can get through without any kind of penalties and that this also applies to projectiles or any physics related stuff, it's also a great immersion breaking atm.
Removing them is not realy fair but after all, cRPG is a mod for warband and the modding is still open. You can't realy call that "cheating". It's more a kind of "exploiting" imo.

[Jack1]

It's more a kind of "exploiting" imo.

General rules
•No exploiting of any kind

[GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER]

There's no way to block all these types of exploitations without simultaneously stunting the ability of independent modders to use cRPG to create items. We have to be able to use different colors and meshes on in game items in multiplayer cRPG servers.

[Dooz]

please change human nature, thx

[BlindGuy]

15 : 35

thats how ghost bush look like.

Derail but you see those russian bastards destroy the cheese-eaters? Fucking love those ruskies, one by one they eat my axe but when they surround you might aswell slit your own throat.

[Rico]

The Warband engine makes it impossible to hide behind anything but solid objects, and character shadows with environment shadows disabled sometimes make even this impossible.

There are lots of games you can play when you like to fight the stealthy way. Warband simply isn't one of them. It's better to accept that hiding isn't a viable strategy, because you cannot look at people's screens whenever they are playing to check which boring exploits they are using.

Of course I dislike it myself, but I stopped raging about it.

Edit: typo

[Digglez]

devs should really add a simple file check so people cant do this or alter the game files in any fashion.  adopted mods like heirloom pack could be checked for integrity as well