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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #60 on: July 21, 2014, 05:09:36 pm »
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So there is no difference except damage output for those builds?
Open both in two separate tabs and swap back and forth between the two, you'll see the difference. One thing to keep in mind though, is that the 10PD build has more conversions, and is therefore going to have a better damage:accuracy ratio. Or another way to put it is, it's a bad comparison. The two builds spend differing amounts of skill points on their builds. Normally when you compare a 30/12 build to a 6PD build, it's to an 18/24 build.
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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2014, 05:12:56 pm »
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Open both in two separate tabs and swap back and forth between the two, you'll see the difference. One thing to keep in mind though, is that the 10PD build has more conversions, and is therefore going to have a better damage:accuracy ratio. Or another way to put it is, it's a bad comparison. The two builds spend differing amounts of skill points on their builds. Normally when you compare a 30/12 build to a 6PD build, it's to an 18/24 build.

Nerd please, in simple English. 30/12 is now best build or what? I'm 18/21 currently and I'll respec RIGHT NOW if that's the case.

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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2014, 05:14:29 pm »
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There are tradeoffs. The conversion thing was like comparing 21/21 to 18/21 for the most extreme example. Can't compare strength vs others when one has more attributes.

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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2014, 05:24:30 pm »
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No, high agi archer are still the best in my opinion

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You're basically now choosing if you want more damage or better draw speed.

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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2014, 05:27:07 pm »
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Nevermind, guy above me answered the question. Thanks jtobiasm, you're doing a great job.

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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #65 on: July 21, 2014, 05:32:45 pm »
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@Sniger,
Most players I know choose manual blocking because they find it's something fun and unique and a mainstay of the MB series, not to get good score (which most would get with shields anyway). From a personal perspective, if anything it is the manual blocking I'm addicted to in this game.

In Native we were all forced to play with shields in battle mode, but despite liking shields everyone really wanted to manual block and thus had to resort to duel servers to experience this major aspect of the combat system. Fortunately cRPG made it possible to manual block in battle mode, by making ranged less dominating, and this has always been one of the things that drew players to cRPG.

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you have NO anti-cheat. yet you are all MANUAL BLOCK IZ ZE BEZT.

shit.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2014, 05:36:13 pm by Sniger »

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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #66 on: July 21, 2014, 05:36:43 pm »
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Well, as an archer with 18/24 build, i'm not even able to hold my aim for 0.5 sec. and you call this a buff for 8+ wm? ppl spend shit loads of time to build their characters, and being effective, not to become an amputated lvl33 monkey. We should get a free respec, that's what i demand.
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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #67 on: July 21, 2014, 05:36:59 pm »
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@bronto before he ninja edited ;DDD
To be honest, i'd just use your stf for a little bit and try them all.

Personally as an archer I prefer to have the ability to shoot more than do more damage. Of course each has there pros and cons, but the main reason i prefer high athletics is so i can re-position all the time.  Personal preference I guess.

Well, as an archer with 18/24 build, i'm not even able to hold my aim for 0.5 sec.

18/24 is still viable, (sorry for epeen - but i got valour 3 rounds on one map on my stf @ 18/21)
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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #68 on: July 21, 2014, 05:53:37 pm »
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18/24 is still viable, (sorry for epeen - but i got valour 3 rounds on one map on my stf @ 18/21)

and i got 11 kills on one map within 3 rounds. it doesn't change the fact. lucky shots, badly stacked enemy team etc. can cause that, but my crosshair/aim is still same, which is bullshit.
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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #69 on: July 21, 2014, 06:01:04 pm »
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woohoo i love a good nerf.... not tryed it out yet tho...but im prolly not going to be affect since i base my aiming on Luck and random movments of mouse.

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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #70 on: July 21, 2014, 06:18:17 pm »
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woohoo i love a good nerf.... not tryed it out yet tho...but im prolly not going to be affect since i base my aiming on Luck and random movments of mouse.

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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #71 on: July 21, 2014, 06:21:51 pm »
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have a good one with the rest of the "dynamic" duel lords then :lol:

this is why i DO NOT WANT TO MANUAL BLOCK, NOT EVEN TRY TO LEARN IT:
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you have NO anti-cheat. yet you are all MANUAL BLOCK IZ ZE BEZT.

shit.

Except autoblocking is detectable since it's just forcibly enabling a function already in the game engine.  Aimbotting on the other hand...not so much.

woohoo i love a good nerf.... not tryed it out yet tho...but im prolly not going to be affect since i base my aiming on Luck and random movments of mouse.

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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #72 on: July 21, 2014, 06:28:32 pm »
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have a good one with the rest of the "dynamic" duel lords then :lol:

this is why i DO NOT WANT TO MANUAL BLOCK, NOT EVEN TRY TO LEARN IT:
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you have NO anti-cheat. yet you are all MANUAL BLOCK IZ ZE BEZT.

shit.

Theres no point in playing if you think so many people are hacking. If they have autoblock how do you know they don't have autofootwork, autobrain and auto feints? I hear some people use performance enhancing drugs too

Its not going to help much if you're still bad at everything else. And if you're good at the other stuff you're probably plenty good at blocking so why use an autoblock that can get detected anyway, and you can physically see it being used (look at autoblock ban thread). I don't know if I ever played against an autoblocker, but I suspect its not that much different than playing against a good blocker.
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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #73 on: July 21, 2014, 06:37:48 pm »
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Theres no point in playing

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Re: 0.3.3.9.1
« Reply #74 on: July 21, 2014, 07:06:31 pm »
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Four IF but zero PD?
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