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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2014, 05:24:37 am »
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YUMI  IS BIGBOW?  OK!    →   2SLOTS~~~ OK?????

I understand you want to change Yumi 1>2 slots so there is Yumi foot archers, but since it "can" be used on horseback, not sure if the admins will change that.
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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2014, 05:26:10 am »
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I understand you want to change Yumi 1>2 slots so there is Yumi foot archers, but since it "can" be used on horseback, not sure if the admins will change that.

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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2014, 05:30:02 am »
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I don't think cRPG was historically "accurate" to begin with, but I think suggestions are good ideas for the developers :D
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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2014, 06:05:22 am »
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I don't think cRPG was historically "accurate" to begin with, but I think suggestions are good ideas for the developers :D
Can you help me a NEW message on things THE YUMI ?
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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2014, 06:25:02 am »
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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2014, 08:08:55 am »
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So there should be some horses with low maneuver, but very high charge. I see.

I think that is actually the most awesome and genius solution for heavy cav. It would make playing it alone nearly useless, but when you are with a few other heavy cavalry they will be absolutely instoppable, which is historically correct.


Holy shit, I love this idea. Nobody liked the stupid backstabbing cav bs anyway lol.

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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2014, 08:14:10 am »
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unstoppable except for level 4 peasants with pitchforks and up stopping then 1 shotting any rank of horse
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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2014, 08:21:14 am »
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You can always make the armour so high it's pretty much impossible to stop or kill the horse, idk it's probably hard to do but I think it would be great.


It's only because we allowed peasants to stop horses with pitchfork that playing in formation got fucking useless, even pikers get abandoned because even people that use halfswording can fuck up cav if they are being charged.

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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2014, 08:26:11 am »
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YUMI  IS BIGBOW?  OK!    →   2SLOTS~~~ OK?????

YUMI  IS NOT  Horseback archery    Do you understand?

Actually it is debated:

As you can see the "handgrip" of the yumi bow is not centered in the middle but its lower, Some historians debate that the reason for that is that you can lift it easyer over the side of the horse (Switch from aiming left to right and vice versa). Because if it was centered it would be (almost) to long on the bottom.

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"The yumi is asymmetric; According to the All Nippon Kyudo Federation, the grip (nigiri) has to be positioned at about two thirds of the distance from the upper tip.

The upper and lower curves also differ. Several hypotheses have been offered for this asymmetric shape. Some believe it was designed for use on a horse, where the yumi could be moved from one side of the horse to the other with ease. However, the grip position had emerged before horseback archery became widespread in Japan.

Others claim that asymmetry was needed to enable shooting from a kneeling position. Yet another explanation is the characteristics of the wood from a time before laminating techniques. In case the bow is made from a single piece of wood, its modulus of elasticity is different between the part taken from the treetop side and the other side. A lower grip balances it.

The hand holding the yumi may also experience less vibration due to the grip being on a vibration node of the bow. A perfectly uniform pole has nodes at 1/4 and 3/4 of the way from the ends, or 1/2 if held taut at the ends – these positions will change significantly with shape and consistency of the bow material."
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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2014, 08:28:48 am »
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I think that is actually the most awesome and genius solution for heavy cav. It would make playing it alone nearly useless, but when you are with a few other heavy cavalry they will be absolutely instoppable, which is historically correct.


Holy shit, I love this idea. Nobody liked the stupid backstabbing cav bs anyway lol.

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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2014, 08:57:07 am »
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I think that is actually the most awesome and genius solution for heavy cav. It would make playing it alone nearly useless, but when you are with a few other heavy cavalry they will be absolutely instoppable, which is historically correct.


Holy shit, I love this idea. Nobody liked the stupid backstabbing cav bs anyway lol.

Yes, add mechanics. Don't streamline builds. This is what makes cRPG unique.
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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2014, 09:14:54 am »
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cRPG isn't a game based on formations and never will be. Hell the concept of "Warband" is small skirmishes to begin with. You will never, ever see "formations" of heavy cav succeed in this game no matter what stats you throw into it, and if in the process you fuck up horse's ability to maneuver you will just ruin the class. No one can even afford light cav in current Strategus, let alone Elite Wedge Formation HEavy Cavalry..
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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2014, 09:18:54 am »
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Well, warband might not be made for big formations but the changes brought in to the game certainly make it worse.

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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2014, 09:26:37 am »
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lolwut

Shield bonus for shield walls don't count? Add a charge bonus for adjacent cavalry.
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Re: SHIT!!!!!!!!!I missed the most important!
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2014, 09:37:50 am »
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the group of cavs getting bonus for charging together is actually a good idea, i would love to see it in game.