Iraq falling appart

[Oberyn]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/07/turkey-extends-bombing-campaign-pkk-targets-iraq-isil-150724212302167.html

Turkey expands bombing raids to PKK targets in Iraq
PM's office says jets bombed Kurdish targets in northern Iraq, hours after planes pounded ISIL positions in Syria.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-us-to-create-isil-free-zone-inside-syria.aspx?pageID=238&nID=85906&NewsCatID=510

Turkey, US to create ‘ISIL-free zone’ inside Syria

Welp, Turkey's def moving in. Prob not long until they start targetting kurdish positions inside Syria as well. I'd like to think the US won't leave their erstwhile "allies" hanging, but seems likely.

[Xant]

US has been fucking Kurds in the ass for a very long time. They give them "support" by giving it to Baghdad... and Baghdad doesn't give it to Kurds.

[Daunt_Flockula]

Piok surely visited Assad's Syria and its nice places for political prisoners with permanently lit 5x5m cells for 100 people each, permanent air conditioning on 10C and a thick swarm of mosquitoes.

No offense Kafein, but reading what you write here, it looks more like you have visited Syria yourself. When it comes to politics, everybody has his own right to a different opinion. There is no telling who is biased, opinionated or falsely led. Surely some statements will look like they have been shot fresh out of one's ass instead of a base of knowledge. That doesn't necessarily mean they are totally false or ignorable.

[Piok]

Piok surely visited Assad's Syria and its nice places for political prisoners with permanently lit 5x5m cells for 100 people each, permanent air conditioning on 10C and a thick swarm of mosquitoes.

Assad could be called dictator thats true and political prisoners are not nice.
But dictator is still better then country run by warlords, organized crime and other goodies installed in name of Freedom.
Cos freedom in this sorts of countries could be called anarchy and I believe that being political prisoner is still better then be cold headless corpse.
Cos Libya is now beacon of democracy
Also Assad regime was far more democratic then gulf states ones and also far more tolerant

Prison should be prison.
It is form of punishment and must look uncomfortable.
Unlike our Eurohotels which could scare only polite and humble citizens not criminals or even economical migrants.

[Smoothrich]

Assad remaining in power is a roadblock to a lot of nations intervening directly to stop the bloodshed over there. I'd prefer if we all could agree on killing or arresting Assad and his top guys, but have Russian and American "advisors" in Damascus to put together and supervise an interim government. Who knows wtf is going on with negotiations between Iran, Russia, USA, Turkey etc regarding Syria, hopefully some fucking agreement could be reached this century before we have to erase Syria and add THE ISLAMIC STATE to our world maps..

[Daunt_Flockula]

You got a point, yet it seems quite impossible for Assad to step down peacefully while a shitton of bandit gangs are playing hide and seek in the region. Some of the many gangs are vilified by some nations and loved by others. It is not even just about IS anymore. I swear I keep reading the name of yet another Islamic terror squad on the newspapers every single day.

[Kafein]

No offense Kafein, but reading what you write here, it looks more like you have visited Syria yourself. When it comes to politics, everybody has his own right to a different opinion. There is no telling who is biased, opinionated or falsely led. Surely some statements will look like they have been shot fresh out of one's ass instead of a base of knowledge. That doesn't necessarily mean they are totally false or ignorable.

Oh well, I wanted to say something (that was taken verbatim from a refugee by the way) and Piok seemed to be a decent receiver. Case in point:

Also Assad regime was far more democratic then gulf states ones and also far more tolerant

Prison should be prison.
It is form of punishment and must look uncomfortable.
Unlike our Eurohotels which could scare only polite and humble citizens not criminals or even economical migrants.

It's like grenade fishing, there's no sport in it. He just randomly spouts bullshit.

[Daunt_Flockula]

Oh well, I wanted to say something (that was taken verbatim from a refugee by the way) and Piok seemed to be a decent receiver. Case in point:

Blind dive-in. Sorry!

[ecorcheur_brokar]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/07/turkey-extends-bombing-campaign-pkk-targets-iraq-isil-150724212302167.html

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-us-to-create-isil-free-zone-inside-syria.aspx?pageID=238&nID=85906&NewsCatID=510

Welp, Turkey's def moving in. Prob not long until they start targetting kurdish positions inside Syria as well. I'd like to think the US won't leave their erstwhile "allies" hanging, but seems likely.

Turkey bombing both isis and kurds, they found the best way to have a stabilised border is to have a desert as a border?

Assad remaining in power is a roadblock to a lot of nations intervening directly to stop the bloodshed over there.

The roadblock is more what happened in Libya and Irak, it is hard to stabilize a country and it costs a lot. No one wants to pay for it. And you can bomb as much as you want, as long as no strong organised governement is in place, new warlords will be filling the empty space.

[Daunt_Flockula]

Turkey bombing both isis and kurds, they found the best way to have a stabilised border is to have a desert as a border?

Even former IS supporters in Turkey are applauding with war cries. Turkish people are being Turkish as usual too. As some AKP diplomat tweeted recently, unaware with his low wits that he was actually confessing things, AKP is only boosting up its votes for the impending repeat-election as the operations on IS and Kurds continue. Another detail is that they are actually calling the bombings+operations an effort to fight PKK, IS and DHKPC (a leftist radical group classified as terrorists in Turkey) altogether. See? They left nothing out. Just the ideal way of lifting the average idiot's spirits.

All is part of the game for the nearing elections. They seem to be after the votes they lost to nationalists. If it goes on like this, they will indeed succeed. AKP imps and Tardogan the arch imp may not be extremely clever, but they surely know the retards they appeal to very well.

[Oberyn]

Heaviest hit targets have been PKK, IS barely targetted at all, and why would they be, there's only a small corridor on the south western border that is still IS controlled.  As expected it's creating a lot of resentment among kurds. How cynical was this, tbh? Using a terrorist attack targetting socialist kurds as an excuse to bomb...socialist kurds. The laughable ceasire and reconciliation process was just about buying time, nothing more, like every other ceasefire they've ever had.

[Oberyn]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/07/germany-warns-attacks-istanbul-public-transport-150729090033586.html

No idea why it's Germany doing the warning, but they have a point. War inside of Turkey vs the PKK is also going to ratchett up. At this point I have to think it's exactly what was expected and sought. If we got any turklings here from Istanbul I'd stay the fuck away from any large gatherings for a while.

[Daunt_Flockula]

I reside in İstanbul. Had to use the subway today. All the time I was looking around for bearded apes ready to blow themselves up. Guess I will become an ever more secluded hermit from now on as if I weren't already.

[Xant]

İstanbul.

Fuck you, buddy, I thought my screen was dirty because of your weird I.

[Daunt_Flockula]

Love to fill the screen with the weird İ (hardly resists actually doing it)