Iraq falling appart

[Smoothrich]

It's a joy going around turkish forums and youtube comments. Apparently they were all a bunch of kurdish communist scum who deserved death. And it's payback for PKK terrorism. How would this be used as a reason for war when the people it's supposed to galvanize are totally ok with it? A lot of turks don't even see it as an attack on themselves. Because it wasn't.
And of course the usual it's a zionist conspiracy arguement, because it's just soooo unbelievable that an islamic fanatic could ever do such a thing. It must've been a CIA/Mossad operation, designed to make muslims look bad and foment chaos in Turkey.

I'm waiting for the day Turkey invades Northern Iraq/Syria and completely crushes the nascient Kurdistan. I can't help but feel that ISIS is withdrawing slowly from the Northern front and letting Kurds link up, which many people are cheering as success, as some kind of long-con to draw in as many Kurds as possible and wait for the Turkish army to wipe them all out and occupy the territory themselves "for regional stability" while never pushing towards Raqqa or Mosul.

[Oberyn]

http://news.yahoo.com/two-police-killed-attack-turkey-close-syria-border-082804539.html

Gj PKK, perfect timing, this will definitely be beneficial all around, fucking retards.

[Leshma]

lex talionis

[Smoothrich]

http://news.yahoo.com/two-police-killed-attack-turkey-close-syria-border-082804539.html

Gj PKK, perfect timing, this will definitely be beneficial all around, fucking retards.

"Hours later, Erdogan spoke on the phone with Obama about how to better secure Turkey's borders and stem the flow of foreign fighters into Iraq and Syria.

They discussed "deepening our ongoing cooperation in the fight against ISIL and common efforts to bring security and stability to Iraq and a political settlement to the conflict in Syria," the White House said in a statement, using an acronym for the IS group."

Haha how ominous. RIP Kurdistan. I bet Turkey is just waiting for for the stage in this conflict where invading annexing and pacifying the Kurdish territory can be spun as "securing the border" and fighting ISIS to the world  stage.

[the real god emperor]

http://news.yahoo.com/two-police-killed-attack-turkey-close-syria-border-082804539.html

Gj PKK, perfect timing, this will definitely be beneficial all around, fucking retards.

Seems fake to me. PKK is not actively operating since a while. This might just be a provocation and I didn't see anything similiar to this in Turkish newspapers.

Haha how ominous. RIP Kurdistan.

Well, yes , it was obvious. They can't let a socialist Kurdistan outside of their control in the petrol zone , every lose ISIS gets , YPG gains advantage.  one day I will wake up and the news will say "GLORIOUS MASTERRACE TURKISH ARMY IS IN SYRIA!!11" and people will say "oh good, show those bastards who is the boss " because day by day it is being legitimized . Look, a Sgt died yesterday , who knows his name? I don't. What did he die for? Someone had to die , so we can start a war, here ya go. Ops, just found out; TR bombed ISIS yesterday and the operation was called "Yalçın Nane" , the officer's name who died yesterday. How glorifying that is -_-.

Am I not supporting the assault against ISIS? Yes I am, but I think, we are fighting ourselves. We made ISIS what it is today (by we I mean USA,Turkey etc. ) and the innocent is paying the price.

[Daunt_Flockula]

Turkey fighting IS is a lie anyway. The best that could happen would be a secretly agreed withdrawal of IS from their occupied territory. It is obvious that the entire game is based on stomping on the Kurds and gradually marching towards Syria. Tardogan is simply consumed by the idea of ending Assad and probably annexing the entire region. This has become his single external policy for the Middle East. I guess he must be having neo-Ottoman wet dreams every single day. Poor deluded bastard.

By the way, IS has an internet publication in Turkish titled "Konstantiniyye". In their latest issue, they are calling Tardogan a phoney Muslim and a supporter of PKK. The entire thing stinks bullshit. I bet the killing of those cops had nothing to do with PKK either. If anyone has been watching closely, you would notice that this has become their official perception messing strategy. Create an atrocity first (the suicide bombing) and follow it with a counter atrocity so that the sheeple cannot, god forbid, find time to start questioning around about the first one.

[Leshma]

Smoothrich was right. Turkey is bombing Syria, and arrested ISIS and PKK fighters.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33646314

[Oberyn]

In other news, ever since the fall of Tell Abyad Erdogan has started making noises that a kurdish controlled area on the turkish southern border with Syria would absolutely not be tolerated. As opposed to the ISIS controlled one through which the vast majority of their recruits from Europe had been going through until now, along with other war materiel.

From the Turkey election thread. Has been happening for a while. This may be an overture to real confrontation with the kurdish controlled areas (which I doubt given the ramifications it could have inside of Turkey), but so far they are attacking daesh, if only to try and contain further kurdish gains.

[Daunt_Flockula]

Could most probably be that, though it is still unbelievable to me that we are actually fighting IS.

On another note, a Lebanese newspaper (As-Safir) has just claimed that a representative of the Saudis has just visited Assad together with a high-ranking Turkish officer through mediation of Russia. They further claim it is about reestablishing relations. No idea as to what to infer from this or what the plan may be or if the claim is even true. We will have to wait and see.

[Oberyn]

It's sad to see kurds winning on the ground but being completely ignored and cut out of all negotiations. It really doesn't bode well.

[Daunt_Flockula]

BRICS recently made a competitor IMF type world bank. Maybe they want to invite Turkey?

Had no idea about that. Now I know. Still, I believe Tardogan would be too afraid to stray away from US influence. Or would he?

[Oberyn]

Yeah I don't think he would, and the negotiations probably have nothing to do with that. Just a random brain fart.

[Piok]

ISIS outlived it usefulness.
Now glorious Eagles with stripes punish them and in process of it bring freedom to oppressed people of Syria.
All this Turkey bombing of ISIS is probably prelude to full scale invasion of Syria by US and pack of butt licking also allies.
Also some News media said that Assad does not give his entire chemical arsenal to destruction.
Soon CIA will find that he has ballistic missiles ready to hit London within two ours.
Not so original? Who cares..
    peoples do not remember what happened yesterday not to mention what happened more than decade ago. 
So another nation screwed up by enlightenment, truth and love

[Smoothrich]

ISIS outlived it usefulness.
Now glorious Eagles with stripes punish them and in process of it bring freedom to oppressed people of Syria.
All this Turkey bombing of ISIS is probably prelude to full scale invasion of Syria by US and pack of butt licking also allies.
Also some News media said that Assad does not give his entire chemical arsenal to destruction.
Soon CIA will find that he has ballistic missiles ready to hit London within two ours.
Not so original? Who cares..
    peoples do not remember what happened yesterday not to mention what happened more than decade ago. 
So another nation screwed up by enlightenment, truth and love

I'm sorry what? Judging by the broken syntax alone, is this the Kremlin spin or something? lol

Assad has been punishing his own people in Syria for like 5 years straight now with chemical weapons, daily airstrikes, secret police, torture rooms, shooting up peaceful protests to begin this crap in the first place. Russia could've just slipped some polonium in Assad's tea so everyone could watch him die of radiation poisoning for weeks like you did in London to Alexander Litvinenko, just to be a dick.

Maybe its not too late. I bet the CIA has tried and failed repeatedly even lol. All the Russian and even American conspiracy theories about the CIA pulling strings, flawlessly creating or concealing evidence, and dictating international news medias narrative bias is so incredibly stupid it almost stops being funny. The CIA all the time demonstrates a high degree incompetentes while also locked in a neverending power struggle with the FBI, DHS, DoD, etc who would be the first to leak any real dirt on em to discredit the entire branch and accrue extra power.

I really love PBS's Frontline documentaries, they aren't as popular but are like the American BBC. If you wanna immerse yourself in a more realistic, factual document a bunch of squabbly uncooperative American leaders and agencies fucking up every possible thing for selfish and/or stupid reasonsbefore during and after the 2003 Iraq War for the next four or five hours, well here you go. Its equal parts informitive, infuriating but entertaining like most Frontline documentaries.  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/view/

[Kafein]

Piok surely visited Assad's Syria and its nice places for political prisoners with permanently lit 5x5m cells for 100 people each, permanent air conditioning on 10C and a thick swarm of mosquitoes.

It's sad to see kurds winning on the ground but being completely ignored and cut out of all negotiations. It really doesn't bode well.

Seems like Polish Syndrome to me. Well, the Polish didn't win much.