Iraq falling appart

[Herezy92]

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this was map was literally released by the ISIS themselves

Nice new world.
If they seriously think that is gonna happen, then we can say that they have ambitious objective (or they are just completly dumb...)

Moreover, Europe is being more & more intolerant so i wish them good luck.

I deeply think that you must adapt and accept the cutulre of the country you currently live.

I would gladly respect their laws in their own countries, (c'mon, it's normal, it's their lands), but what the hell, at the moment, what i don't like is, step by step the islamic "influence" is growing in western europe.

An exemple :
In France, since ~1900 we have a very important law about securalism, which is a foundation of public school.
Quite recently, we had troubles because in the schools, because some muslims refused to put off the Veil inside our laic/secular schools.
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Same with the school cantina which was not "halal", now it is.
etc...

It's just random exemples, and i don't want expand more on this subject. But i hope you get my point.
I'm not saying it's an invasion, (because first of all : its' not) but on a long time period, we are stepping back slowly but surely.

In order to finish, i would say that i'm not anti-islamic, i'm just anti-religion.
Yes religion started with good wishes, but there will be always some persons to turn them at their advantage because it can have an enormous power control.
The most important religions are always trying to expand in misfortune of local cultures.
Religions advocate a common sens of thinking instead of developing your own & independant thinking.
Philosophy & Enlightenment ideas must be saved.

Muslims need to collectively reopen the "Gates of Ijtihad" and re-turn to something closer to the Mu'tazilite interpretation that made them the center of the scientific world during their Golden Age, instead of the anti-intellectual, anti-rationalist A'shari doctrine that has dominated their religion for the last thousand year 400 years

This.

Cya FrenchKiss

[Smoothrich]

About Iraq and american medias : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/27/iraq-war-critics-tv-bookers_n_5534549.html

Thanks for the link about the, in your view, insane biased World Puppeteering NeoConservative American/Zionist Globalist Agenda of the American media.. reported on by one of the most popular American news sites, the Huffington Post..

[Xant]

Oh you, Tovi.

[Molly]

That's like quoting "The Onion"... Oh boy.

[Tovi]

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This map is a fake. I mean , it doesn't comes from ISIS.

The map shows the historical territories of Islam and exist from years on internet. It's used by many islamist websites (and by some neo-nazees sites too, wich it has probably been token).

[Tovi]

Where ISIS come from ?

They have been trained in the Safawi military base in Jordan (32°11'35.0"N 37°07'36.0"E), by US special forces instructors (after Hillary Clinton met king Abdallah in january 2012). ISIS was considered as "moderate" and non-enemy of the USA.
200 rebels have been trained here between 2012 and 2013. And some others in another base in the south of Jordan.
Another training camp is located near Incirlik , close to Adana in Turkey.
They are trained and equiped with american weapons like :
M16
Night vision AN/PVS-7
M-203 cal. 40 mm
M60 E3
FIM-92C Stinger

Now they have more US equipment stolen at Mossul. Because the new Iraqi army is now equiped with mainly US weapons.
But this US equipment is mostly inefficient against the rebels, that's why Al Maliki now buy military equipment from Russia (Su-30 K ,Su-25 and armored Mi-35).

[Xant]

Good god Tovi

[Panos_]

I`ve been watching some Kurdish videos and I absolutely respect the Kurds. They've done nothing but mind their own business for the past few decades and want nothing but to live in peace with those around them. The Sunnis and Shiites could learn a lot from their cooperative and open nature.
They've taken refugees from every sect and group from Syria to Iraq and have taken the fight to ISIS on their own territory and even in northern Iraqi cities. I honestly hope they get their own country out of Iraq and Syria, because they sure as hell have earned it and put up with a lot of turmoil from Saddam's nerve gas attacks to ISIS incursions into their territory.

[Xant]

Everyone likes Kurds, apparently. A lot of US mil guys think they're the only ones worth anything over there.

[Christo]

I honestly hope they get their own country out of Iraq and Syria, because they sure as hell have earned it and put up with a lot of turmoil from Saddam's nerve gas attacks to ISIS incursions into their territory.

Well they are kind of doing that right now, securing territory and oil industry with Peshmergas 

[Tovi]

But Kurdistan is divided into 2 factions :
- UPK (Talabani clan), pro Iran and Syria, mostly in Syria. Also close to the PKK in Turkey.
- PDK (Barzani clan) supported by Turkey and Israel, mostly in Iraq. Allied with ISIS.

[Christo]

Allied with ISIS.

lel

[Kirman]

They can take the east side of Turkey aswell. To be honest i don't care since i'm paying their bills under the name of tax cause they don't pay theirs on east but still using the electricity,gas etc etc... Maybe their population will decrease on west, that's even better... I know that sounds racist but most of the kurds in Turkey selling drugs, doing shitty things. Some of them can't even speak Turkish.


ISIS is really close to our borders at the moment. That's what i read lately.

[Christo]

10.000 Kurdish Forces Enter Shangal

They were pushed back not long ago, what a response.

US to Give Kurdish Forces Air Support

Iraq air force to back Kurds fighting Islamists

Well with 10.000 Kurds on the ground, and all these air support claims, it doesn't look any good for ISIS.

[Molly]

I've quickly passed over the articles and noticed weird terms used like "Kurdistan" which poked my interest...

“We decided to go on the offensive and fight the terrorists to the last breath,” said Kurdistan Region President Massoud Barzani Monday afternoon. “We have ordered the Peshmerga to attack the terrorists and enemies of Kurdistan with all their power.”

Stuff like this seems weird.

Google rudaw.net and came up with the Wiki-entry stating it's a Kurdish Media Group...

Anyway, if all that support is true, Turkey is not really gonna like that one bit. Neither all the other countries from which a "Kurdistan" would take land. That's probably the only reason they fight - to finally construct their own state I could imagine.