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[cmp]

It's clear that admins only read the OP of that retarded thread, ignored all the -s it had and removed the banner. For the last time retard admins, Nazis didnt invent the Swastika, no more than they invented the CROSS, either ban all the Iconography they stole or none of it. It's bloody stupid in a medieval game to remove symbols that existed in the medieval world.

Hey, genius:

Why do you keep mentioning the symbols? This clan has a swastika banner and it has been there for more than a year.

You accuse me of not reading the thread (which I did), and then you write bullshit... because you didn't read the thread. Pure gold.

[[ptx]]

I dare PTX to go out on the street with the Perkunas T-Shirt and lets all check the reactions of the crowd....
I dare anybody to wear a T-Shirt with a Swstika and go out for a walk.

So there is only one question really...Why you should be permitted to have a banner that you wouldnt even had the balls to wear it as a T-Shirt on the street?

P.S: Jewish Internet Defense Force is the real political propaganda in CRPG.

I have a t-shirt with similar Baltic symbolism on it, it looks pretty awesome and everyone compliments it. Wear it in public, have to some festivals, etc.

My turn. I dare you to do become less ignorant.

[BarBeQ]

Lel end this discussion goddamn whoever is in charge of this, just give him what he wants.

[cmp]

To the best of my knowledge you havent provided another reason, you mentioned something about the runes but it was very vague.

I feel that's not a good enough reason to call me a retard for something that I explicitly confirmed was not (by itself) why the banner got removed.

Like i said, i cannot read runes, does it say something bad?

Stolz Mut Ehre, which sounds like something you would put on your Stormfront signature. Again, by itself it's not enough to jump to conclusions, but if you factor in the facts that 1) they use a "viking" banner for a maltese order clan (?) 2) there are swastikas too 3) they have Hitler themed alts, I think the decision to remove it was justified and I see no reason to revert it.

By the way, just noticed this post:

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It shouldn't even matter if the banner was heinously nasty, racist, sexist, homophobic, and bigoted in every way. A simple addition of a "muting" or "blocking" feature should be implemented for banners. If someone finds themselves offended, they can take measures to prevent themselves from being offended more than a single time. As long as the banner fits the constraints of looking rather decent, being at least vaguely historically/fantasy-based, no other constraints should be put upon it. The burden should be placed upon the viewer, rather than the creator of content to police what they see.

More abstractly, and even less usefully, I believe that becoming offended is a personal and conscious choice. You can view an image that you find distasteful, and take measures to prevent viewing it again, simply ignore it, or argue against the use to the creator. What should not be done is argue to the authority at hand that the entire existence of the content should be erased and prevented from entering into public view again.

The only real issue is actual censorship laws in Germany and Austria (the finer points of which I am admittedly ignorant of) preventing the display of cute puppy, iron cross, or other contemporarily "chocolate chip cookie" symbols. My only experience with this is in another game, Day of Defeat: Source in which German-based groups had to be extremely careful about what they posted on their forums and what they used as their in-game avatars.

Complete and utter crap. If somebody comes to my party naked, dirty and stinking I don't give other people blindfolds and clothespins, I kick him out.

[Kafein]

Stolz Mut Ehre, which sounds like something you would put on your Stormfront signature. Again, by itself it's not enough to jump to conclusions, but if you factor in the facts that 1) they use a "viking" banner for a maltese order clan (?) 2) there are swastikas too 3) they have Hitler themed alts, I think the decision to remove it was justified and I see no reason to revert it.

Well this could have spared us a dozen pages and three thread locks.

[pepejul]

I propose to validate all n a z i symbols and banners BUT the users (clans or members) should be extra nerfed and allowed to be TKED....

Some rounds should be "na zi chase"... kill them'all !

"good idea pepe, thank for you extrasense of justice"

"you welcome"

[Son Of Odin]

Well this could have spared us a dozen pages and three thread locks.

Where's the fun in that? It's not about where we are going, it's about how we get there

[cmp]

Well this could have spared us a dozen pages and three thread locks.

And that's the problem here: people always feel the need to have a say, even when it's about something that doesn't concern them, and despite not knowing all the facts (you don't expect admins to make a public announcement every time they make a decision, do you?).
Of course it gets a little more complicated when the only person who has the right to know is too busy harassing [pTx] and Son Of Odin to listen.

[Radament]

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[Gribnir_Thorwaldson]

Son Of Odin I do not know what you mean?

[darmaster]

bah it's a free mod, if they don't want people to post cute puppies or anything like that it's their choice and they don't have to respond to anyone, same would be if they banned communist things and kept fascist symbols, since I don't pay for this I can't complain. no oh no no no don't you dare bringing my QQs in this discussion, those are clearly constructive criticism to help devs developing the perfect gaming system,  it's not the same.


anyway my reaction when I read the 3 hilters alts

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[darmaster]

ask yourself,  "would it have been as cool as it looks now?"

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"ohi look at me, would it? look in my eyes for gods sake, would it?"

[Christo]

Son Of Odin I do not know what you mean?

rekt

[Son Of Odin]

Son Of Odin I do not know what you mean?

I meant that I can't and wont help you because you have made very poor choices with your clan. Your PM's were polite and ok tho and I respect that. However when all the things are taken into consideration it was justified to remove your banner:

Stolz Mut Ehre, which sounds like something you would put on your Stormfront signature. Again, by itself it's not enough to jump to conclusions, but if you factor in the facts that 1) they use a "viking" banner for a maltese order clan (?) 2) there are swastikas too 3) they have Hitler themed alts, I think the decision to remove it was justified and I see no reason to revert it.

You simply don't do stuff like that... I also don't like reading copy paste threads from my inbox. Don't do that either yeah...

[cmp]

But when you've gone to the trouble of posting and then locking the thread it's not really a a stretch is it to have replaced that 'you know nothing of history' post with 'I removed this because X, Y and Z'. The Hitler-themed alts are certainly a development lol.

You might see why I assumed it was something to do with the 'historical' content of the banner based on what you said last before you locked it to prevent further discussion?

I locked that thread because it had devolved into a silly nazism vs communism discussion, not because of the banner. Now that you say it like that, I admit I could have been clearer in my post.