I did say "Not saying this is accurate just an interesting article even it it does ignore most other parts of the EU" and the fact i never said i was voting for ukip just that i want a referendum on Europe and a real debate on change.
Liberal ideals well spreading them depends on which ideals you are talking about, Human rights.. well Europe might respect it and its court but it is thoroughly despised by UK politicians and the media and is one of the reasons a lot of people dislike europe
and interesting article on Britians relationship with the court
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/dec/22/britain-european-court-human-rightssome main part
Part of Britain's attitude can be explained simply by a different conception of the law. In continental Europe, judges – guardians of written constitutions – routinely overrule politicians. In the UK, parliament rules: primary legislation cannot be questioned by judges.
Partly too, it stems from a few high-profile recent cases that have not gone the government's way: the court's initial refusal, for example, to allow the deportation to Jordan of Abu Qatada, and its insistence that it is wrong to deny all prisoners, in every circumstance, a right to vote.
Stuff like that even if its only a tiny tiny % does not go down well
but for the record imo the UKIP vote is a protest vote in the relatively unimportant european elections. They are there to show the main parties that Europe and immigration is a massive concern to the public and needs to be addressed. Labour and the Lib dems shouted Racist at anyone who questioned mass immigration and the Tories seem to side step Europe mostly.
My personal views are that the European Court should not be able to over rule laws made by our elected government and that our immigration should be more like Australia with a points system. Those are my only two major gripes with the EU and i have nothing against people like plumbers/doctors/engineers etc who come here to work.
damn edits while i was typing
