Meanwhile in USA

[SugarHoe]

The part in bold is actually not at all that true. Police officers (rightly so, in my opinion at least) get great benefits. Say what you want about them, fact is they DO put their lives on the line mostly every day (depending on their exact job, location, etc. No small town traffic cop should get the same benefits as a swat guy from NYC.  Perhaps they don't, but they probably would get comparable benefits if they are in the same area). Not only do they get great benefits while working, they get them for life... these guys are typically treated like war veterans half the time.

When I was briefly in RI I learned two things really fast: 1) The state is corrupt as shit and 2) there are infinite numbers of police officers on every single block. I'll skip over the first part since it isn't entirely relevant to this conversation, but the reason for there being so many cops is that in RI when you retire as a cop you continue to make 90-95% of your salary. That's right, you might have a pitiful income while you work... but then you still make that pitiful income all while sipping pina coladas on the beach, without a care in the world. Since the coppers of RI get such a great deal, everyone wants to be a cop, and for some reason pretty much everyone (uneducated, mindless drones included) actually get accepted to be cops. If cops actually had shit wages and shit benefits, then perhaps only the men who are actually dedicated to protecting their town would be wearing the badge, but unfortunately it is not so, and any guy who flunked out of college can decide to be a cop nowadays.

don talk bout my roh dyelan like this

[Kafein]

Fire burns. Don't fuck with it. And don't complain when your dick is burned off because you whipped it out to piss on the fire. Responsibility for this incident falls on both parties.

Well, duh... I assume that by that you mean that the cops here showed as much intelligence as the guy holding the knives ?

[Paul]

Many Americans are still stuck in the wild west "hang-the-horse-thief" mindset and are even proud of that. A criminal forfeits his life once he breaks the law - no matter the circumstances.

[Xant]

That guy was mentally ill. Obviously he acted stupid as fuck. Doesn't mean he should be killed for it...

[Teeth]

Fire burns. Don't fuck with it. And don't complain when your dick is burned off because you whipped it out to piss on the fire. Responsibility for this incident falls on both parties.

Most American citizens do not have that mentality.

I disagree, everytime there is a thread about police violence there are usually a few Americans displaying exactly that mentality, including this thread, Rumblood's response for example. This mentality still seems very present throughout American society. It's a mentality that I and many Europeans with me have trouble understanding, violence should always heed proportionality and human life should be valued higher than property.

[Prpavi]

Well a few posters on this forum don't represent the whole US community, I don't live there, neither have I been to the states but yes I do get the same feeling as Teeth :/

[Jeade]

That guy was mentally ill. Obviously he acted stupid as fuck. Doesn't mean he should be killed for it...

You're not suggesting what I think you're suggesting... are you?
No one in this thread wanted to see the guy shot, and no American police officer or citizen would think differently.                                                                    unless they're a psychopath and I assure you there's very, very, very, very few of them
Unfortunately, when you threaten someone's life, you put that person in a tough situation where the blink of an eye could be the end of you.
It's sad, but welcome to reality; mental illness isn't an excuse in this case.

That's what I think is so fucking awful about this situation- the guy wasn't thinking clearly, and he put the police in a super tough spot.
I'll basically quote myself and say again that this video should be a cry for an improved healthcare system in the US.
Maybe with help Boyd could have avoided this fiasco and lived on.

[djavo]

I understand US law enforcers. There is so much idiots with license for firearms. Shoot first, ask questions later.

[Xant]

You're not suggesting what I think you're suggesting... are you?
No one in this thread wanted to see the guy shot, and no American police officer or citizen would think differently.                                                                    unless they're a psychopath and I assure you there's very, very, very, very few of them
Unfortunately, when you threaten someone's life, you put that person in a tough situation where the blink of an eye could be the end of you.
It's sad, but welcome to reality; mental illness isn't an excuse in this case.

That's what I think is so fucking awful about this situation- the guy wasn't thinking clearly, and he put the police in a super tough spot.
I'll basically quote myself and say again that this video should be a cry for an improved healthcare system in the US.
Maybe with help Boyd could have avoided this fiasco and lived on.

"Super tough spot." That situation might have been super tough for a couple of grade school girls, but police officers equipped like that? Nope.

[Christo]

mental illness isn't an excuse in this case.

Yes, it is

[SixThumbs]

I disagree, everytime there is a thread about police violence there are usually a few Americans displaying exactly that mentality, including this thread, Rumblood's response for example. This mentality still seems very present throughout American society. It's a mentality that I and many Europeans with me have trouble understanding, violence should always heed proportionality and human life should be valued higher than property.

I made a joke post because I was actually upset by what I saw in the video (and I wish Leshma would stop posting that other video and reminding me of it). And from the video alone the man was disturbed and more of a danger, or issue, to himself then anyone in polite society. The inflection in his speech, along with his raggedy clothes and composure, told you you were dealing with someone who wasn't in possession of all his faculties. He was maybe armed with knives but I highly doubt someone of his disposition is going to have a fire-arm.

Sadly, money and training aren't allocated to dealing with the mentally impaired and I've only ever seen one cop who seemed to be living by "protect and serve" in my area. Situations that extreme haven't happened here that I know of but it's definitely "guilty until proven innocent".

I don't know what it's like in Europe but if you watch the news here it also seems like the media is constantly inundating the general public with fear-porn which, on top of all the other issues with law enforcement, doesn't help the situation at all.

[Xant]

I guess it's to be expected in a video gaming forum, but all these "wow, what a tough spot", "man, them officers were one blink away from death" posts are pretty amazing.

Bouncers, people working in hospitals or as paramedics, beat cops, etc., etc all deal with similar situations a lot and they get through them without shooting anyone with suppressed M4s.

[Molly]

I know from experience that most bouncers go into "breaking-bones mode" when knives get involved, no matter the mental condition.
Those bones normally heal tho

[Armpit_Sweat]

Must be a very stressful and physiologically hard job - to be a police officer in the USA... Easy access to firearms etc.
 
Denmark has only 5 million citizens, so it might not be comparable with other country's statistics, but here is murder statistics for recent years:
 
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Yes, only 40-50 people get murdered every year. Not sure how many of them were committed using a firearm, but i suspect very few... As you can imagine, police is very chilled here. I have been stopped by police only once in 13 years, because i was drinking a bottled beer on a central train station, and it was not allowed. They politely asked my to step out from the station, and enjoy my beverage under the open sky. That's it!
 
I trust local police completely, and therefor it's hard for me to criticize their work, even when they "take it too far"... Most of the times i hear about victims of police brutality, i think - "They deserved it! May be not that much, but they had it coming!". Idk... just sharing my personal opinion

[Falka]

That's what I think is so fucking awful about this situation- the guy wasn't thinking clearly, and he put the police in a super tough spot.

Even if it was "super tough spot" someone could think that 1 bullet was more than sufficient to overwhelm him... and this "put your hands up" screams when the guy lays in a pool of blood