Author Topic: Damage calc / character builder updated (Read 27965 times)

San · « **on:** March 05, 2014, 01:48:12 am »

Website added, no need to download: http://tinyurl.com/crpgcalc

Longer version:

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If you want to download for yourself so you can edit the layout:

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Thranduil · « **Reply #1 on:** March 05, 2014, 02:54:06 am »

At first testing it seems to be working fine and accurate. I'll let you know if something breaks.

*EDIT* I do like how I can modify the HTML to have my own personalized cRPG Calc page.

And now my own personalized Calculator!

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And in case anyone is interested, here's how I did it:

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Download the folder from one of San's links.
Extract folder anywhere as long as the files are in one folder.
Copy your favorite image file to this folder an rename it something simple like m.jpg. (*Note* It is best if the image is close to your screen resolution, otherwise you will have a lot of repeating images.)
Open calc.htm in Notepad++. (Regular old Notepad or Wordpad will work as well for changing the code.)
Scroll to the bottom to where you see the following code:

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<body>
<div id="charCalc" class="application"></div>
<div id="dmgCalc" class="application"></div>
<div id="xpDisplay" class="application"></div>



</body>

Change it to this:

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<body background="m.jpg">
<div id="charCalc" class="application"></div>
<div id="dmgCalc" class="application"></div>
<div id="xpDisplay" class="application"></div>



</body>

Save the changes.
Open style.css in a text editor as before.
Scroll down until you see the following code:

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div.application {
	background: #333;
	background: -webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, from(#444444), to(#333333));
	background: -moz-linear-gradient(top,  #444444,  #333333);
	
	border: solid #999 1px;
	-moz-border-radius: 10px;
	-webkit-border-radius: 10px;
	padding: 1em;
	margin: 1em 0;
	
	max-width: 900px;
}

Replace it with:

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div.application {
	background: #333;
	background: -webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, from(rgba(68, 68, 68, 0)), to(rgba(51, 51, 51, 0)));
	background: -moz-linear-gradient(top,  #444444,  #333333);
	
	border: solid #999 1px;
	-moz-border-radius: 10px;
	-webkit-border-radius: 10px;
	padding: 1em;
	margin: 1em 0;
	
	max-width: 900px;
}

This causes the interactive applications (the three boxes) backgrounds to be transparent. If you don't want them transparent, don't edit style.css.
Save the changes.

Optionally, you can edit the background color while you're in style.css.

At the start of the code you will see this:

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html {
	background: #000;
	color: #eee;
	font-family: Calibri, Arial;
}

Replace #000 with whatever hex code color you prefer. Don't know what a hex code is or how to get the color you want? Check this out: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_colorpicker.asp
And of course, save the changes.
Double click calc.htm to open in your web browser and enjoy your personalized cRPG Calculator!

With the exception of changing the background color in style.css, all you have to do to get a new background is replace the m.jpg image in the folder with another image of the exact same name (and extension). Now how easy is that?! ... Well, easier to do than to read about.

HappyPhantom · « **Reply #2 on:** March 05, 2014, 03:17:26 am »

Comment so I can find this later

WITCHCRAFT · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2014, 09:28:09 am »

Thanks for the link. My bookmarked character builder hadn't been patched since before the AGI rework, and getting inaccurate WPF was driving me crazy.

Working like a charm so far.

BlueKnight · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:06:13 am »

Can we stick it somewhere?

Moncho · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2014, 11:51:55 am »

It does not seem to be saving characters for me. Anybody else have this problem?
Other than that, seems fine

Grumbs · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2014, 12:08:48 pm »

I'm surprised at the amount of variation between the min and max damage. I remember an update was done that was supposed to average out the min and max damage so its less random, but seems we still have quite a big range from min - max damage

Angellore · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2014, 03:09:22 pm »

Quote from: Grumbs on March 05, 2014, 12:08:48 pm

I'm surprised at the amount of variation between the min and max damage. I remember an update was done that was supposed to average out the min and max damage so its less random, but seems we still have quite a big range from min - max damage

I'm surprised anyone still rely on those damage formulas

. They are wrong since like 2011, but people are still using them.
cRPG damage depends from many more factors now, like % damage change of specific weapon types, increased pierce penetration value (imo it's way too high in crpg) and so on.
This damage calculator was quite fine in 2011, but even then it wasn't perfect. Now it just gives you basically random numbers, which has nothing to do with reality.

Grumbs · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2014, 03:26:02 pm »

I thought the point of the thread was that San updated and fixed the formula?

San · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2014, 03:40:34 pm »

Some wpp was automatically being used, removed that.

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I'm surprised at the amount of variation between the min and max damage. I remember an update was done that was supposed to average out the min and max damage so its less random, but seems we still have quite a big range from min - max damage

Randomness from damage to armour has been reduced to 5%, but there's still an inherent 90%-100% raw damage randomness to attacks, from what is used in the calc.

Thranduil · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2014, 03:42:36 pm »

Quote from: Moncho on March 05, 2014, 11:51:55 am

It does not seem to be saving characters for me. Anybody else have this problem?
Other than that, seems fine

Hey Moncho. It won't save characters because that requires a cookie. Since the file is actually running straight from your computer and not using the internet at all, no cookie is generated. At least, I think that's what's going on here. Too bad I'm still in the early stages of learning Java, or I'd say maybe I could work a quick fix to it to save the data as a text file to be read by the program.

*EDIT* After a little research into file writing with javascript, this idea is rather moot. It might be possible, but it would be a real pain to try. At least for me right now it would.

kinngrimm · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2014, 03:44:47 pm »

upto lvl 37 now

nice

- the additional WPP you get on melee weapons is not represented.
- clicking on the "shield" checkbox does not change anything

Dexxtaa · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2014, 03:53:44 pm »

And here I was sitting around picking the nicest looking things to swing at people and looking at corgi pictures.

Angellore · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2014, 04:07:04 pm »

Quote from: Grumbs on March 05, 2014, 03:26:02 pm

I thought the point of the thread was that San updated and fixed the formula?

I think he updated Builder. From damage section he changed wpf decrease (gloves x4 and helmet x2 change) and new armor soak value. At least that's how I understand those changes.
The thing is, current crpg damage don't base on single formula, and crpg code isn't open source, so you can't check this easily. Also, many things depends from WSE now, so I suspect even with source code it will be hard to figure out true damage values.
Calculations in this builder are based on old formula, with just few things changed. Even if you add modified armor soak value (which should be right) and wpf decrease (which also should be right), it will still give you bad result, because current crpg damage calcuations are surely much more complicated than just old base damage formula, figured out by few different people in 2010-2011.
That's why I wouldn't belive those calculations

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San · « **Reply #14 on:** March 05, 2014, 04:13:17 pm »

Min and max are accurate, but the average is a little dumb. It shouldn't be the average of min & max, but the average of the damage randomness between 90% and 100%.

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