Flamberge vs Great Long Bardiche

[Glyph]

i think that the balance between these is really redicules, just take a look at it!

Great Long Bardiche
price 13,705
weapon length: 155
weight: 3.8
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 87
weapon length: 155
thrust damage: 18 pierce
swing damage: 46 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Unbalanced
Bonus against Shield



Flamberge
price 18,777
weapon length: 152
weight: 4
difficulty: 18
speed rating: 86
weapon length: 152
thrust damage: 24 pierce
swing damage: 46 cut
slots: 2
Can't use on horseback
Can't sheath


GLB has bonus against shields,
can be sheated,
is cheaper,
less weight,
better speed rating and
more range

Flamberge is balanced and
better thrust damage

i think the flamberge has to get buffed because mainly the shield bonus and because it can't be sheated.


think, post and disscus!

[Konrax]

OR GLB needs to be nerfed?

[Bulzur]

Yep, i'll second Konrax, if you see a problem between thoses two weapons, then nerf the GLB, i think the flamberge is already pretty fine as it is.

[Glyph]

no because then those weapons would be used even less and they aren't overused which is the reason for nerfing

[Bulzur]

They maybe arn't overused, but it's maybe not only because oftheir stats but because of their requirements in STR, that not anyone can afford with their chosen build. And i still see some flamberge users who are doing relatively good, using the great range of the flamberge.

It's not because a top tier, thus very important upkeep item, is not so used, that you have to buffed it so that everyone uses it. If you have one and can't use it well, sell it and find another weapon, don't call for a "look at the difference, what shall we do ? Nerfing the GLB is ofc unacceptable, what shall we do then ?" topic.

And the unbalanced is a pretty hard malus btw.

[Konrax]

What about nerfing it for balance sake?

[Glyph]

i never said the buff should get a mayor buff maybe just +1 speed rating or 2 damage.

[zagibu]

Don't buff the Flamberge, but make it cheaper. If you nerf the GLB more, everyone who uses it will switch to the GLA.

[Tzar]

Hmn u cant feint with the GLB ? while u can with the flamberge??

I think thats the whole point but i dunno the price tag on that flameberg is insane....

[MountedRhader]

Just don't nerf anything. Everything's fine at the moment..

[Vanular]

The GLB is unbalanced, which is why very few people use it.

If you have the slightest idea of how to feint and block, you should not use an unbalanced weapon.

Unbalance = huge disadvantage. Especially coupled with a slow weapon.

If I could chose between the two weapons I'd chose to use the flameberg, hands down. For reference I have 20 str and 154 in Polearm skill and use GLA, Elegant Poleaxe or Glaive, depending on my situation.

[Thucydides]

Oh god don't do anything more to nerf my precious long weapons.

[Glyph]

i didn't ask to nerf anything, maybe just a buff

[La Makina]

Yesterday, in DTV, a peasant survived a flamberge hit... 
Old times are really gone.

[Bulzur]

i didn't ask to nerf anything, maybe just a buff

That's exactly what we're reproaching you, asking a buff for a weapon which is already fine as it is.
Funny how some people can't stop but asking for minor buffs, saying that a little +1 speed won't unbalanced the game. If that's the case, why not adding a little -1 speed to the flamberge, since it won't unbalanced the game ?

Stop randomly asking for weapons buff without good backup. If i'm not mistaken, you're also responsible for the "sheathable flamberge" topic, wich also gets a big no from many. If you want a faster weapon, who is sheatable, then there's already plenty around. -_-