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Offline Prpavi

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About Horse Archers
« on: February 23, 2014, 02:41:28 pm »
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With the recent patches I found my HA to be completely useless. Heaven't played much last couple of weeks, even deleted the game but I managed to play more this weekend.

What I noticed is even with top tier gear for HA (Yumi, Bodkins) and a completely dedicated build (no athletics, no powerstrike, all wpf in archery) I deal no damage to example Plated Charger (tracking the points) sometimes I deal 1 point of dmg, using Barbed or Tatars makes no sense any more. Getting valor is impossible because of the low dmg so that was also taken away from a class that barely survives financially.

Now I understand the hatred towards the class and am aware of the massive unpopularity of it, I was the one who hated it too but have grown to like it. It is quite sad that a lvl34 char with high tier equipement can't help his team and is forced to retire. I made sacrifices reagarding the build (fully dedicated), I grinded my melee alt just to sell loom point so I can afford the upkeep (lost over 800k so far since September) and now I can't do shit for my team and contribute. (I accept that my data is not 100% correct but not that far off either)

Maybe changes like this are the reason people are fleeing, I will not rage quit or make "I'm butthurt and quitting so everybody must know it" thread on the forums but I'm sure as hell gonna play less.

Please in the future when balancing the game these things in consideration, I'm sure HT will be hit next, HX already dead. Would be fair to the players if you just removed mounted ranged classes instead of nerfing them till nobody plays them. I would have no problem with that

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« Last Edit: February 23, 2014, 07:00:09 pm by Kalam »
And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2014, 02:47:12 pm »
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Getting valor is impossible because of the low dmg so that was also taken away from a class that barely survives financially.

I disagree, getting valour is a lot easier than doing it as a foot archer.

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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2014, 02:49:19 pm »
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Please buff polearms, I find it sad that I cant 1hit everyone.
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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2014, 02:57:31 pm »
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Has to be only you then. I get damaged by HA regularly. My +3 Plated Charger is quite durable against HA, but not immune.

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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2014, 03:08:01 pm »
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...try dedicated ht with 5 pt & jarids then , only 2 headthrows & 5-6 bodyhits out from 12 jarids needed on a full str plate (for example fins plated ha-alt) , but i still don't feeling useless.

..but i agree, the speed damage nerf sucks.
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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2014, 03:18:03 pm »
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When will you dumb inbreed attention whores, stop posting your buff me threads in general section??

FFs, HA´s was OP as fuck, you had it comming.....

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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2014, 03:19:39 pm »
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When will you dumb inbreed attention whores, stop posting your buff me threads in general section??

FFs, HA´s where OP as fuck, you had it comming.....

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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2014, 03:24:35 pm »
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FFs, HA´s was OP




No doubt, I even suggested some, but you seem to miss the point of the thread, I forgive you tho :*
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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2014, 03:29:33 pm »
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HA wasn't "op as fuck" for a long long time. That's just the hate speaking of you.

If there are more than some ranged or ranged cav players online and threatening your life, you (the average crpg player, typically melee without throwing or even a spear (so bumps cannot be avoided)) think the class itself is too strong.
HA is getting nerfed all the time and comparing HA today to HA 2 years ago, you quickly notice the class was nerfed a lot. And when I'm saying a lot, I really mean A LOT!
Not speaking of how HA was in native and in the beginning of crpg, but that's of course not how HA's want their own class to be however.

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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2014, 03:52:12 pm »
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I dont think HA is Op ..Its just annoying as shit even if there are more than 5 HAs in the server..I think they nerf it to reduce the amount of HAs and frankly speaking I support that because they are annoying and "destroying " the fun

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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2014, 03:58:10 pm »
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With the recent patches I found my HA to be completely useless.

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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2014, 04:02:25 pm »
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Why do yo u need to deal damage vs plated chargers?
Just focus on the unarmoured horses.

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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2014, 04:04:59 pm »
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If it was me I would remove uncounterable kiting completely from a multiplayer game....

But prpavi you really can't complain about not being able to damage cav that isn't even near the speed of even attacking you, that's only fair in my opinion.

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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2014, 04:07:54 pm »
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HA's are always effective as a group, that's their natural strength. Eventhough you nerf them to their bones, putting a couple of HA's together will definitely inflict some "good damage". This "good damage" used to be individual kills before the nerf-train. Now it's generally shooting down other horses, bumping to help your mate kill his opponent, or stun the enemy. If that can satisfy your game session, then it is most of what you get nowadays.

However, I strongly suggest new players to avoid being a HA as it is useless to invest your time. As we have a player community that is only concerned about getting easy kills, and not being bothered by other classes, and a dev team that supports this crowd, HA has been made the least enjoyable and satisfactory, and with one of the highest  upkeep class in this game.




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Re: About Horse Archers
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2014, 04:09:03 pm »
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Why do yo u need to deal damage vs plated chargers?
Just focus on the unarmoured horses.

I understand not everyting can counter everything, but at level this high and also high equipement it just sucks being semi useless and basically a drag on the team, i used to help out now I can just take peasants out.
And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
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