About Horse Archers

[Leesin]

I stopped playing HA because I got bored of it, I did renew my fun for a while before I stoppes by making a HA/1h hybrid, which I actually didnt to bad with, but even that got boring because its massively gimped, useless for strat and just still a huge gold drain. HA is without a doubt the most nerfed build in the game, anyone sitting here saying they were OP are most likely shiedless infantry with no ranged or cavalry support. I think some people forget this is a team game.

[Sniger]

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im sorry. but you may have forgotten that once i promised you that when HAs were nerfed id be on forum collecting every single tear. here i am.

[San]

HA vs. plated charger is quite an extreme example, isn't it?

The ranged soak/reduce didn't really affect your normal damage at all, maybe a point less damage, but the speed bonus change sure did. You'll have to use high speed shots and bumps to maintain great damage. HA still dealt good damage to my barded warhorse on my cav alt when I played yesterday.

[Prpavi]

HA vs. plated charger is quite an extreme example, isn't it?

yes, it's only an example how a high level build can't do anything against another player, don't think any other class with this level can say the same. What I'm trying to say, if you need to be lvl 33/34 to be semi effective as a HA, it's not really worth it now is it?

[BlueKnight]

yes, it's only an example how a high level build can't do anything against another player, don't think any other class with this level can say the same. What I'm trying to say, if you need to be lvl 33/34 to be semi effective as a HA, it's not really worth it now is it?

It applies to archers in general, doesn't matter if mounted or ground ones. Mounted need additional points for Horse archery and riding and ground archers need their athletics and PS (yes, PowerStrike seems useful for them from time to time).

Xbowmen and melee ain't that affected by the lvl difference and I don't know anything about throwers. For sure high level helps throwing-melee hybrids but I'm not sure about pure throwers.

[Grumpy_Nic]

yes, it's only an example how a high level build can't do anything against another player, don't think any other class with this level can say the same. What I'm trying to say, if you need to be lvl 33/34 to be semi effective as a HA, it's not really worth it now is it?

But a lvl 34 polearmer/1h/2h can do something against HA? Bullshit.

[BattalGazi]

But a lvl 34 polearmer/1h/2h can do something against HA? Bullshit.

I think that is the main idea behind all the nerfs right?

[Prpavi]

guess it's adapt time again

[Prinz_Karl]

yes, it's only an example how a high level build can't do anything against another player

Fuck you.

[Grumbs]

Why should the most despised classes be strong anyway? Go spoil another game

[Apsod]

Use Bodkins if you want to hurt Plated Chargers.

[San]

yes, it's only an example how a high level build can't do anything against another player, don't think any other class with this level can say the same.

 

[Torben]

Prp,  if its any consolation,  you are a damn threat to any medium cav. 

Also,  my heavy lance needs a really good speed bonus to do mentionable damage to a plated charger as well,  however to inflict that damage,  I get in range of their crazy long swords with whom they can up to onehit me or my horse with some bonus.  also,  they can block down.  qq.

my point is:  they just are tough,  and thats their thing.  after all,  they are also an arrow and polearm magnet.

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my real point is:  buff heavy lance 

[Prpavi]

let me explain myself a bit better, I don't mind not killing everybody bit it's about winning rounds on Battle. A lvl 34 class can win   a round on flags even against HA, what I don't like is I'm no use to my team anymore. K/D is not my concern, winning and helping my team is.

[BattalGazi]

In the natural balance, HA was confronted by lancers. Whiners whined, and lancers get nerfed. Whiners whined, HA get nerfed. Yet, whiners are whining and HA is still getting nerfed unreasonably. I support Torben in this means. If you have never ever nerfed lancers, HA's would never be nerfed this way, and all the walking whiners would be much safer.

I still don't know why devs are still messing up with this multi-class game, while they have their own only melee game. Why wouldn't all the walking whiners go play that game instead if they are so upset by being chased by cav, or being shot by arrows, or both ...