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 Do you think that the STRENGTH requirement for Medium/Heavy tier armours, should be increased?

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3 out of 4, want an armour re tweak, please devs
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Good idea, but too soft restrictions. I think that armor requirement must amount to armor weight. This will separate light, medium and heavy troops, and add some more sense to high str builds.

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I suggested this in teamspeak a little over a year ago, when I realized first hand, that you can do extremely well with a 0 ps, high athletics, high armor build, if you have a sufficient weapon(blunt/pierce). Since then, I have become much more hesitant with taking this route to address armor. The fear I have with this, is that it will only result in shifting the meta back towards strength builds, as equipment already has a larger affect on performance, than your build. I think armor really does need addressed, but I'd much rather do that in a different way.
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I think armor really does need addressed, but I'd much rather do that in a different way.

like how?

Seriously, agility is really overpowered compared to strength, and this is coming from a guy with an agility based build...
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You never even had below 6 powerstrike panos, that's still balanced.
According to you 18/21 is agiwhore, 21/18 is strengthcrutch and balancing doesn't exist.

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You never even had below 6 powerstrike panos, that's still balanced.
According to you 18/21 is agiwhore, 21/18 is strengthcrutch and balancing doesn't exist.

It seems you don`t know the meaning of some words, let me help you.

Balanced build : 18 Agility 18 Strength
Agility Based Build : Str < Agi
Strength Based build : Str > Agi


Now, go wear your plate with 15 Strength.
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Seriously, agility is really overpowered compared to strength
Is it? Define overpowered. Agility is strong in whose hands? Strength is weak in whose hands? What/how many different settings? With what types of equipment?
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Is it? Define overpowered. Agility is strong in whose hands? Strength is weak in whose hands? What/how many different settings? With what types of equipment?


Yes it is, I don`t know how things are in NA, but in EU we have a lot of min maxers, mostly 2handers, with loomed kuyaks and builds like 15/27 or 18/24 , who can 2hit everyone with their bonus damage, due to high athletics.


Also, if you want a list of the ups and downs between agi and str build, go back some pages, I already made a post.
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Agi OP? I've seen you play recently with your agi build but you are just hitting an even 1:1 KD, but with your str build you got 2:1..
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Agi OP? I've seen you play recently with your agi build but you are just hitting an even 1:1 KD, but with your str build you got 2:1..


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It seems you don`t know the meaning of some words, let me help you.

Balanced build : 18 Agility 18 Strength
Agility Based Build : Str < Agi
Strength Based build : Str > Agi


Now, go wear your plate with 15 Strength.
for most twohanders that's a lvl 27 build or something

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for most twohanders that's a lvl 27 build or something

it was an example...


21/21 is a balanced build aswell
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Yes it is, I don`t know how things are in NA, but in EU we have a lot of min maxers, mostly 2handers, with loomed kuyaks and builds like 15/27 or 18/24 , who can 2hit everyone with their bonus damage, due to high athletics.
So you're suggesting that you shouldn't even be able to use a kuyak with 15 strength?  :rolleyes:

Are you sure it's not actually that the way armor is balanced is the issue, not the strength requirements?  :)

If that armor range is indeed the best(and I do agree that it is), then doesn't the issue lie with the armor:weight ratios? The exact reason as to why the min/maxers use these armors to begin with.
 
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it was an example...


21/21 is a balanced build aswell
A balanced build is when you don't really favor one of both but go for something in between. You don't need exactly the same amount of agi and str, they are not 'equal' anyway.

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So you're suggesting that you shouldn't even be able to use a kuyak with 15 strength?  :rolleyes:

Are you sure it's not actually that the way armor is balanced is the issue, not the strength requirements?  :)

I wanted to point out that I get 2hitted from agility builds, due to hideous speed bonus damage.
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