Archer feelings after last patch

[Kafein]

Now ranged got nerfed and with that my throwing daggers became complete garbage aswell, i guess its a price worth paying.
But also with the nerf the amount of archers has reduced, and cav risen. Now theres always a shit ton of cav spawnraping, oneshotting and plowing through infantry. And since the ranged amounts have been reduced cav can roam much more freely. I feel we need a cavnerf to follow up, or maybe i'll just have to switch to permanently playing with either pike or hoplite.

With more cav comes more pikes and hoplites then more generalist melee to deal with the pikes and hoplites, I think that's fine.

[Gravoth_iii]

With more cav comes more pikes and hoplites then more generalist melee to deal with the pikes and hoplites, I think that's fine.

The thing is, i never see many people use pikes/spears. Usually there are more byzantiums with poking weapons than the rest of the server. And now many of us are playing alts etc, so even less anticav on the server. And whenever i see people use pikes they barely use them to fight cav, but only focus on infantry

[Hirlok]

well, we are close to uselessness again where we had been for months. Great patch.

Horses survive close range headshots with pd8 mw bow bow or pd6 mw longbow, both with bodkins, agi guy in medium armor takes 3+ shots to take down, etc.

But it was to be expected, and we had a few weeks of fun before, so be it. 

To be honest I care less and less - for an occasional trolling session the game is still fun (because of the hilarious people on NA, thanks all you dickheads for countless funny moments!!!), and apart from that I am starting to look for other things to put my time into... quite a bit of real life stuff coming up, books to finish, etc. - so the nerf is welcome since it makes playing c-rpg much less tempting... 

[Kafein]

The thing is, i never see many people use pikes/spears. Usually there are more byzantiums with poking weapons than the rest of the server. And now many of us are playing alts etc, so even less anticav on the server. And whenever i see people use pikes they barely use them to fight cav, but only focus on infantry

Back when I played cav, the amount of long poking weapons really changed how I had to play, even when they didn't actively seek cav. It's way more effective as pikeman to bait cav rather than maintain it away.

well, we are close to uselessness again where we had been for months. Great patch.

Horses survive headshots with pd8 mw bow bow or pd6 mw longbow, both with bodkins, agi guy in medium armor takes 3+ shots to take down, etc.

But it was to be expected, and we had a few weeks of fun before, so be it. 

To be honest I care less and less - for an occasional trolling session the game is still fun (because of the hilarious people on NA, thanks all you dickheads for countless funny moments!!!), and apart from that I am starting to look for other things to put my time into... quite a bit of real life stuff coming up, books to finish, etc. - so the nerf is welcome since it makes playing c-rpg much less tempting... 

Ne me quitte pas... not

[San]

Wasn't this less a nerf than a patch equalling ranged damage with melee damage against high tier armor?

Now it's even more rock, scissors, paper, as ranged will have to teamwork with its own can-opening infantry, instead of more or less just ignoring armor as hitherto.

There was a ninja patch at the beginning of this week that changed ranged again, negating the old change that made armour very good against low-mid damage shots. Right now, ranged is using the same values as melee against armour. No damage multiplier like it was before, but neither is there any artificial nerf against armour like it was over the weekend for a few days. Even so, 14% damage from PD allow archers to still deal slightly more damage than the equivalent melee non-held hit.

Also, for the guy complaining about throwing daggers, that weapon and other low tear throwing weapons are more effective now (by like 1 point, but still).

[Templar_Steevee]

My opinion about bows is same from begining: long bow - best bow, enemies will always feel if they get shot from it (rus bow is also ok, but i just love long bow )
If you want to kill, you need to pay for it, it's simple. 

[dreadnok]

Suprise, archers got nerfed again 

After last patch I noticed that number of archers felt down and there is way less QQ about archers.

Why?

Armor is protecting ppl better against projectiles.

Situation we have now is a bit closer to realism. If you have shit bow and cut dmg arrows guy with hi armor ratio will laught when you shot him.
Now most archers are using at least 4 pd bow, because with it you can deal dmg.

It's nice to see when a guy in plate or armor close to it can survive 3 shots (long bow+bodkins), it makes game funnier from both sides and makes that ppl starts using good looking heavy armors.

This nerf IMO is a best way to nerf archery and not making it unplayable. Pew-pewing ppl to death is still possible

Can't wait how is archery going to looks like in strat, because i heard about some changes in archery we will have only in strat.

Have a nice day and remember, if you have a shield, don't forget to shield up 

Hush up and go play one of the many piece of shit first person shooter garbage.

[Templar_Steevee]

Hush up and go play one of the many piece of shit first person shooter garbage.

I don't like point and click games, but i love archery system in c-rpg.

You are probably NA, so there is no reason to add you to my blacklist 

[Hirlok]

You are probably NA, so there is no reason to add you to my blacklist 

I will shoot him for you, he actually likes it, esp. death by buttshot 

[Tzar]

Archery weak buff archery..... herp derp!!

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[Templar_Steevee]

Noone said that archery is weak and unplayable.

2 days ago i also got quite impressive kd after 3 rounds 17:0 (i also killed 2 temmates) 

But worst thing is that most ppl are looking at archery, and i can even say more, at all clases, looking at hi level players like one you posted here.

Also they are taking out exceptions like single screen shots (situation we have here)

As i can say about archers in this game that they are powerfull, but on some town maps and close area spaces they are quite useless, and abilities in melee are quite crappy (it's ok, because ranged are units killing from range).

[dreadnok]

I will shoot him for you, he actually likes it, esp. death by buttshot 

Ha! Hiro, I never have the heart to hit  such a cutie as yourself

[karasu]

Archery weak buff archery..... herp derp!!

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And that's the difference between skill and generic whine. 

[Adamar]

It always was, somehow mature people still think that one or two good score results from lvl 34 builds make the class. But if you want to talk about generics, the class is generally shit, as always.

[Templar_Steevee]

Atm it's more support class. If someone want to kill lots of ppl, he can try other clases.

If you want to kill lots of enemies as an archer yo have to got some luck, and lots of skill. Archery in c-rpg is not a point and click shooter easy mode.