Archer feelings after last patch

[Templar_Steevee]

Suprise, archers got nerfed again 

After last patch I noticed that number of archers felt down and there is way less QQ about archers.

Why?

Armor is protecting ppl better against projectiles.

Situation we have now is a bit closer to realism. If you have shit bow and cut dmg arrows guy with hi armor ratio will laught when you shot him.
Now most archers are using at least 4 pd bow, because with it you can deal dmg.

It's nice to see when a guy in plate or armor close to it can survive 3 shots (long bow+bodkins), it makes game funnier from both sides and makes that ppl starts using good looking heavy armors.

This nerf IMO is a best way to nerf archery and not making it unplayable. Pew-pewing ppl to death is still possible

Can't wait how is archery going to looks like in strat, because i heard about some changes in archery we will have only in strat.

Have a nice day and remember, if you have a shield, don't forget to shield up 

[Leesin]

As someone who has played a lot of HA I fully support this 'nerf' ( tbh I would personally call it a much needed armour balance/buff ), it doesn't effect ranged so much vs the lighter armours but really shines through with the heavy armours like it should.

[Prpavi]

Nice patch, a knight is finally a knight again.

As for HA I am completely useless to my team and cannot help in any other way than bump enemies  will grind 7 more mil and retire @lvl34

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[HappyPhantom]

I must now be disciplined and not shoot horses in the face as they charge head on, because now I will most surely ALWAYS lose.

[Perverz]

expected!
sinec i joined cRPG inf cry about archers.

fucking pathetic!!!



btw im not archer ;)


ride or die

[San]

Ranged damage was changed twice. Right now, it should be in-between old values which simply multiplied your damage and the change that made high armour great against low damage ranged. The most recent change was within the past few days. Funnily enough, that made archery the least affected in comparison to throwing and xbows.

Low PD bows can still stun armour now, but the highest damage attacks had their maximum damages decreased. High damage ranged were doing good damage regardless, so I doubt people would notice to the effect of destroying gameplay.

[Rebelyell]

yesterday I got shoot in to face with heavy xbow or arbalest and I survived
 best pach ever

[Angantyr]

Wasn't this less a nerf than a patch equalling ranged damage with melee damage against high tier armor?

Now it's even more rock, scissors, paper, as ranged will have to teamwork with its own can-opening infantry, instead of more or less just ignoring armor as hitherto.

[Templar_Steevee]

On some maps i can do shit, but on other ones, when i can shoot more than 4 arrows per round archer can still be a player that push your team to victory.

"good archer is dead archer" i heard that long time ago on ts. But even after last patch good archer is worth multi for your team if he will survive long enought ;)

[Jeraz]

I agree that it is a good patch, but i feel that i need a little more damage, not much but just a little. The reason for this is that i have had multipal situations where i have shot 4/5 arrows in some on and he was still able to reach/kill me. I think surviving 4 arrows is already a bit dodgy but 5 is really annoying.
Having to shoot 5 shots with a longbow takes a long time and unless it's a open map/ i'm on a roof i'm never going to get more then 4/5 shots off before someone reaches me.
That wouldn't annoy me if i could run away but most people are also faster then me (bodkins + longbow weighs a lot). i know this is to prevent kitting and i like that but i'm now forced to use heavyer armor so i can actually have a change in duels against those who reach me.

But if nothing chances it's fine for me, like steevee said, the number of archers has dramasticly increased + i'm not useless, so i can life with that  .


Edit: After playing for a few days i came to the conclusion thats its more balanced then i tought.

[Molly]

Topic is like a trick question: Archer do not have feelings!

[Templar_Steevee]

Topic is like a trick question: Archer do not have feelings!

archers have feelings, we hate everything what live, and i also remeber names to be able to revange 
Some of us also have a blacklist like me 

[QuisUtDeus]

Foot Archer damage seems to be ok right now, but since I am no archery expert this is only speaking from the receiving end. Starting with 60 body armor you really notice protection by that armor, which is as is should be as the OP stated.

However, horse archery got hit too hard by the last change. In a test which Peso and me were conducting, i could take way too many arrows from HA.

Solution: Decrease the damage reduction HA get from being on horse a little bit. Don't get me wrong here, I don't want horse archery to be the dominant factor on EU1, but it feels a little over the top when a class gets completely obliterated by a patch.

[Templar_Steevee]

what bow and arrows your friend were using?

[Gravoth_iii]

Now ranged got nerfed and with that my throwing daggers became complete garbage aswell, i guess its a price worth paying.
But also with the nerf the amount of archers has reduced, and cav risen. Now theres always a shit ton of cav spawnraping, oneshotting and plowing through infantry. And since the ranged amounts have been reduced cav can roam much more freely. I feel we need a cavnerf to follow up, or maybe i'll just have to switch to permanently playing with either pike or hoplite.