Cheating or not: editing game textures

[CrazyCracka420]

Such as having certain weapons show up bright pink?  like so:

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Or making it so bushes and hay stacks lay flat on the ground (don't have an image for it).  It seems like it would also theoretically be possible to change other textures in the game, such as making things be more transparent (not sure if that's possible or not, but if you can edit other textures, why not the transparency?)

Would be nice if WSE checked certain textures you were using when you started the game, and didn't let you connect to servers if you had altered certain texture files. 

I personally consider it to be a form of cheating.  It would certainly make my life a lot easier if bushes or haystacks were flat on the ground, and people that thought they were hiding in them were clearly visible to me.  It would also make my life as cavalry a lot easier if every polearm that could rear horses was colored in as a neon bright pink texture.

***EDIT*** Got I got my answer:

Fun fact: there is already a system in place and working for a few months now that punishes client side modifications. Its effect is as hard to notice as are the advantages you gain when using such mods.

No, we will not discuss this system, and you will never hear anything else about it.

Thanks zagibu, you da man

[Hecur]

Insta perma ban!

[HardRice]

As it stands now, it's technically not cheating.

And if you were to do the checking of the textures, all texture mods would be reset.

Plus you can just not use WSE.

[Grumbs]

Anything you edit with the intention of gaining an advantage is cheating, yup. Don't think its against the rules though, and I remember a thread were chmpx had like the opposite view I thought they would have about it

[Kafein]

Anything you edit with the intention of gaining an advantage is cheating, yup.

What

[HardRice]

What

Anything you edit with the intention of gaining an advantage is cheating, yup.

[pingpong]

Getting rid of  bushes or making them more transparent should definetely count as cheating, i have been shot so many times while in perfect cover behind many bushes, atleast thats what i see on my screen.


pls tell us who this douchebag is so we can all call him names and hurt his feels

[GRANDMOM]

Who is he? Pro HINT #check a new ban thread

[CrazyCracka420]

Getting rid of  bushes or making them more transparent should definetely count as cheating, i have been shot so many times while in perfect cover behind many bushes, atleast thats what i see on my screen.


pls tell us who this douchebag is so we can all call him names and hurt his feels

I know there's a decent amount of players who edit textures of weapons and projectiles to make them easier to see, it's not just one person.  That's borderline "cheating" in my opinion.  I think of the people who do that (edit colors of weapons/projectiles), there's very few who actually edit bushes and haystacks to be flat on the ground.  I like to think most people don't outright "cheat" (which editing of haystacks/bushes definitely are). 

I'm not suggesting the person who took the screenshot edits bushes/haystacks so they are flat on the ground.  I would give anyone the benefit of the doubt that they don't do that.

That being said, I wanted to bring this up to see what people think, and to see if dev's would be willing to prevent people from doing either editing of weapons/items, or editing of map objects (such as bushes and haystacks). 

They could certainly have an accepted list of texture changes, so people could still use things like the heirloom mods.

[Nessaj]

Sure, but personally I'd be more interested in being able to block Macros.

[Oberyn]

Def cheating from my perspective. Although I'd consider even lowering graphics to the level of scary mod to be a form of exploiting game engine as well, if you don't actually need it to run the game. With such simplified almost symbolic graphics it is a lot easier to pick out movement. If you were to use a mod that removes all colour for example, leaving everything shades of grey, black and white it would be a buff to your perception of movement by eliminating a lot of distractions.

[CrazyCracka420]

My god man, I can imagine it would be a huge advantage if my screen looked like this for ranged, and had a neon orange or green color for any polearm that could rear my horse.  I'd be a hell of a lot better than I am now on my lancer cav:

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[HardRice]

It's hard to draw a concrete line on what is cheating and what isn't.

Would editing a sword texture to a darker shade of grey to make it more aesthetically pleasing be ban worthy?

What about people who changed the bolt's model back to the older, more easily traceable one?

And weapons in the heirloom pack that are more easily seen than others?

They'd all be in the same boat, if what you suggest was put in.

Getting rid of  bushes or making them more transparent should definetely count as cheating, i have been shot so many times while in perfect cover behind many bushes, atleast thats what i see on my screen.

As a ranged player, it's quite easy to see someone through a bush if they move. And depending on your graphics options, they might look different to other people.

[CrazyCracka420]

It's hard to draw a concrete line on what is cheating and what isn't.

Would editing a sword texture to a darker shade of grey to make it more aesthetically pleasing be ban worthy?

What about people who changed the bolt's model back to the older, more easily traceable one?

And weapons in the heirloom pack that are more easily seen than others?

They'd all be in the same boat, if what you suggest was put in.
As a ranged player, it's quite easy to see someone through a bush if they move. And depending on your graphics options, they might look different to other people.

I think there should be a list of approved modifications to textures (such as texture packs like the heirloom textures modifications).  It would be awesome if you could only change your textures to approved textures, not just whatever neon bright colored object you want.  Maybe I'm 4 years too late in this suggestion though, since people have been able to do this since forever.

[Wingthor]

Any modification of the client is cheating. End of discussion. There is no other option to ensure a fair competitive gameplay...

changing textures to make weapons more "noticecable" is hilarious.