Cheating or not: editing game textures

[Adamar]

I thought the devs had some way to track this kind of stuff. The game is a lie.

[Torost]

I always figured the crossbowmen sticking their crossbows into buildings to see thru them as cheating ...

Prob someone has tried to make all proptextures 50% transparent by now.

Giving complete vision of everyone on the map.

[sF_Guardian]

If you need editing for being able to play due to potato-pc (scary mod etc) its okay for me.
If you do that shit and ruin the looks of the game for gettin an advantage, you should eat your own d*** and die.
No mercy for cheaters, mercy for ppl with a bad pc.

[AntiBlitz]

http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/cheating-textures/

This was already talked about, and the developers statement is in the 7 pages of chat, you can find it yourselves.

[PsychoTwins]

http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/cheating-textures/

This was already talked about, and the developers statement is in the 7 pages of chat, you can find it yourselves.

And here is chadz' opinion from that thread(for those who dont wanna read it all)
 

I can't believe people are raging over the fact that tinkering with your models and textures client side should be restricted or overseen.

Now here is a suggestion. Some servers have the restriction on, some have it off, and you can decide where you want to play. And if you really want to play with your unicorn on the restricted servers, you put it into the review process.

Some people really find something rageworthy in every little thing...

yes

[sF_Guardian]

There will be validation in the future. Mods will need to be whitelisted by us or you won't be able to connect to official servers.

I guess with future he meant December 2010.

[Templar_Steevee]

So it's look like i'm cheating since about one year bacause I'm using hierloom pack???

[CrazyCracka420]

So it's look like i'm cheating since about one year bacause I'm using hierloom pack???

There would be an easy way to have allowed textures in the game that are not default, and still not have people using neon pink textures for some weapons/projectiles, and still not let people use bushes/haystacks that are flat on the ground, or have them use transparent walls, or have them essentially turn off fog.  Just wish chadz and cmp implemented their suggestion (where you have to use approved textures, or play on servers that are unrestricted for textures):

I can't believe people are raging over the fact that tinkering with your models and textures client side should be restricted or overseen.

Now here is a suggestion. Some servers have the restriction on, some have it off, and you can decide where you want to play. And if you really want to play with your unicorn on the restricted servers, you put it into the review process.

Some people really find something rageworthy in every little thing...

yes

There will be validation in the future. Mods will need to be whitelisted by us or you won't be able to connect to official servers.

Wish they followed through on this

[Smithy]

So it's look like i'm cheating since about one year bacause I'm using hierloom pack???

You didn't read the thread. 

[Templar_Steevee]

You didn't read the thread. 

nor really, bu there were topics like this one already, and there is no sensce to read it all, i know  that problem, + and - of using other textures than default, that's why I voted for potato

[Smithy]

nor really, bu there were topics like this one already, and there is no sensce to read it all, i know  that problem, + and - of using other textures than default, that's why I voted for potato

If you didn't read it then you don't truly know what its about, or the opinions involved.  In fact you've got it literally entirely backwards. 

[Templar_Steevee]

I can say what's inside this thread.
There is a group of ppl changing textures into bright colors (mostly purple) to see better wepons and projectiles to get advantage of that.
Some ppl are more clever and changing models of bushes and hay stacks to become more flat, other ones are playing probably with transparency of some textures to see what is behing some covers.
Some ppl are changing textures to be able to run and play c-rpg on some kind of "wooden pc" (no offence here, i've got problem withh fps and others before i change my pc, i know it hurts)
There is also a group of ppl changing textures to their own to have a badass look of equipment or change a brightness or colors of some parts of their stuff to let it fit better to other parts of equipment. I'm in this group, because i love how longbow and bodkins looks on +3 with hierloom pack.

Some ppl are raging at it, some ppl are saying it's good, but under some conditions. IMO truth is somewhere in a middle

[CrazyCracka420]

truth is somewhere in a middle

That's what most common sense would tell you, and that's what I'm saying as well.  There is certainly a big difference between having transparent walls, bushes that lay flat on the ground, and having pink projectiles.  They are not all equally as bad as each other.  And then there are things like Final Boss' loom pack, which are not "bad" at all in a cheating sense, they are very cool and people really enjoy using them. 

There's certainly a middle ground here, and I think that is what chadz and cmp said (read my quote of them from March 2013).  The answer would be to have an approved list of texture modifications, if you want to mod a texture, you'd have to get it submitted and approved before you can connect to a game server.  Seems like a no-brainer solution to me.

[Smithy]

@Steve: Ok good, that's the thread in a nutshell.    I also agree with you.  As I stated on the previous page, modifying textures for good is cool, modifying them for evil is not.

No one said the Loom Pack is evil. 

@Huseby:  It would have been nice if the developers implemented a system like that, but it would take a bit of work.  I imagine they will have something similar in M:BG.  Especially considering the game and the Donkey Crew will be under quite a bit of public scrutiny, if its so easy to "wallhack".  RIP APB.

[zagibu]

Fun fact: there is already a system in place and working for a few months now that punishes client side modifications. Its effect is as hard to notice as are the advantages you gain when using such mods.

No, we will not discuss this system, and you will never hear anything else about it.