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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2013, 08:57:09 pm »
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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2013, 12:13:45 am »
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Whats with all the edgy newbie bashing?

You can't transfer over much of your skills you learn in other games with melee, so you start right at the bottom against people that already learned the game over the course of years

Ranged is very intuitive. You point, you click. You hit or you miss, whatever the outcome as long as you have awareness there is no immediate negative feedback. You don't suddenly die because you made a mistake, not like you do in melee. So there is a minimum skill level you need in melee to survive, and you constantly have to beat players that have much more skill and experience than yourself

2 hand is a good way to learn the game though. Learn to stay with the team. Don't go soloing anyone yet. Get good blocking skills and focus on defense over offense. You can do that in duel server but don't overdo it there, you might get bored. If you learn good blocking skills over everything else the other stuff will come in time. You just need to make basic attacks, and if possible attack enemies that your team are attacking and where there aren't too many enemies that you can't retreat if need be.

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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2013, 05:11:33 am »
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Whats with all the edgy newbie bashing?

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It's a troll community for the most part.
Thanks for trying to help someone.

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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2013, 08:39:41 pm »
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ohhhh wow so much to pick apart here.
crossbow is one of THEE HARDEST thing
idk is it almost as hard as 36-3 using a heavy bastard sword in plate 1 shotting half the players in strat.
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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2013, 08:42:56 pm »
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nvm I figured out that the hardest thing ever is the typical Acre build, (ur still hot plumbo)
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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2013, 12:24:25 am »
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You forgot some blocking mixed with lucky chambers mixed with rapidly clicking the left mouse button.
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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2013, 05:26:24 am »
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no dude those are legit chambers
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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2013, 05:35:11 am »
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With practice comes greener grass, my friend. Just duel anyone you think is better than you and try and beat them until your ass has been kicked so hard that you are starting to fight back.
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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2013, 07:08:50 am »
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or just spam s key and constantly abuse the lolstab, don't even worry about blocking. you will be at the top of the scoreboard in no time.
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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2013, 02:38:18 pm »
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It's a troll community for the most part.
Thanks for trying to help someone.
Or maybe, just maybe it has something to do with how OP bashes a whole clan in his post?

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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2013, 04:48:16 pm »
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If I may infer from your OP, you are coming from a playstyle where you were basically a shielder/turtle. As a dedicated shielder myself for 4 years, I know I relied on that shield to protect me from all sorts of shit (except the verbal abuse. Somehow that still got through a huscarl). It was some time before I ever started to learn to manual block (i.e. a year). Making a 2h alt was the best thing for honing my manual blocking skills. Stick with it. You'll suck at first, so spam. You'll then find someone you can't spam, so you'll learn to block (and when we say "learn to block" we know you know how to block; we mean the timing and control of the direction, which is not always as simple as it sounds because of ping, lag, reflexes...). Invention is the mother of necessity or some jazz like that.  :P

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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2013, 08:02:48 pm »
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I cant help but feel that OP is Panos' alternative account..

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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2013, 05:56:04 pm »
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or just spam s key and constantly abuse the lolstab, don't even worry about blocking. you will be at the top of the scoreboard in no time.
Best Advice. Learn lolstab.

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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2013, 05:28:58 am »
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One part of it is being hyper-aware of your surroundings to lolstab kick and spam. Get some caffeine . Duels are also a big thing
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Re: Why do I suck so bad at 2h?
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2014, 08:29:45 pm »
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I'm lvl 34 and with several years worth of experience with 1h/shield (never having played 2h). I'm pretty poor at weapon blocking; whenever I go to block an overhead, I accidentally move the camera and obstruct my view of the enemy and die, so I use a shield so I don't have to deal with this (also ranged are annoying).

I spent 2 hours on the duel server with a Skip The Fun 2h character (21/18 or something) with a +3 Longsword, and I was routinely beating people that I can't beat with my main (mostly agi polearmers, kick spammers, etc). And this was only bothering to block sideswings and thrusts (and just trying to dodge overheads), and I don't even know how to execute hiltslashes or any other "advanced" 2h techniques. I just ran around erratically swinging and stabbing a lot; the huge 2h animation sweetspots took care of the rest.

The moral of the story is that if you can't be effective with a +3 Longsword, then you are probably over-thinking it; just move around randomly and swing. I have honestly never seen anyone that uses a +3 Longsword/HBS perform poorly.