Cavalry in cRPG and Strategus

[Toffi]

Good thread Torben!

[Mamba]

I did never play Strategus, because when I found crpg, it was almost over. But I can imagine that trying to fight organized infantry is next to impossible. The problem is that the balance for battleservers and strategus is the same?

When they are matched as 1v1 in battle servers, the cost for strategus should be altered. Which is almost impossible due to the different kinds of cav. Nobody would say that a horsearcher is a balanced 1v1 toon.

Well no idea, you guys figure something out

@Gnujs, I like your new avatar hehe

[Reinhardt]

Cavalry was only useful for shock tactics in strategus, even with plated chargers cav could be taken out easily by a unified force of 10+ pikemen on the enemy team. Hopefully this will change, but as far as being able to charge an enemy line and actually win is... unlikely in strategus (1.0, anyway).

The problem is that the balance for battleservers and strategus is the same?

Not really.. cRPG is a mass of unorganized rabble. Strategus is  (sometimes rabble depending on the faction, and...) mostly unified groups or shieldwalls  and pikes and archer volleys making cavalry extremely difficult to play and use.


Also, as horse archers are pretty good (if played smartly) in cRPG, they are not that effective in strategus if the enemy concentrates fire.

[Bjarky]

cav was an practical support class in strate, when played by pro horseman off course 
the most important thing was to get randomers to not take the horses and waste them 

[Leiknir]

the most important thing was to get randomers to not take the horses and waste them 

Thats was one of the main drawbacks of horses in strategus, they are so expensive that no one would allow random neutral people to just use them, reserving them for their alliances few known riders.

[Bjarky]

well there were neutral riders too where you knew they followed orders and knew how play, but yeah given the price and some experiences with some randomers, it was sadly the way to go 

[Torben]

 ya,  I´ve never participated in a strat battle but I pretty much figure that our horses and us will have a hard time.  meh.  ^^

and now tell me about this fabled Dima_Urban

[Leiknir]

and now tell me about this fabled Dima_Urban

He was too good for the game, so he decided to buy ~10 more warband keys and opened a clan full of him and his alts. He sometimes plays all chars at the same time.

[Bjarky]

He was too good for the game, so he decided to buy ~10 more warband keys and opened a clan full of him and his alts. He sometimes plays all chars at the same time.

indeed 
he was/is a 1h+shield with a slashing red ponytail from the RuConquista.
pre patch he trimmed the stats to uber scimi speeds + he has very good fighting skills and anti enemy group powers 

[Sharky]

I remember a battle (seariders vs someone, maybe fallens) when dima just camped near the enemy spawn, behind a tent, for several minutes.
He was alone, naked with just a scimitar and an huscarl shield, fighting 6 7 ppl at the same time, doing shitloads of kills and never dying.
Then the searider commander said "wtf is doing at their spawn" and another searider "dima knows what he's doing, let him stay". Epic.
He was quite good as a cavalrymen too

[Casimir]

Wasnt he like level 45?

[NuberT]

I was cav in almost every openfield battle and village attack I fought. The tactic was usually gather behind a hill/house, ride around together, rape their archers and die^^. But it was ok otherwise noone would have bought horses. If you kill 2 archers or perhaps some infantry you did good, you cant expect a kpd of 10 like on battle servers.

[Reinhardt]

Wasnt he like level 45?

Na, he just got 120 kills and 10 deaths for a majority of the battles. o_O

[Sharky]

Wasnt he like level 45?

Don't remember but yes he was one of the guys with most xp

[Casimir]

No im pretty sure he was super high level aswell.

Hes an awesome player but doest get over the point that alot of thongs will be dofferent now that most people will be about the same level.