How to fight crime.

[Swaggart]

For fucks sake, the cop was not interfering he was intervening.

[Butan]

Why call the police when a policeofficer is there?
And then well it is police duty to stop a crime and prevent the criminal from escaping.
So the officer did his job. this doesn't make him a hero nor a murderer.

And I would also add that even if firing shots at someone doesnt increase his lifespan, a normal cop shoot to neutralize and wouldnt mind that the criminal survive and face trial.
The cop in the vid didnt put a bullet in the brain of the thief after he made sure he was K.O., and he most likely called police/hospital himself.

We still havent invented a stun phasers like in Star Trek unfortunately, the most common law enforcing tool remains the bullet when faced with firearms and other lethal weapons combined with violent behaviour.


I'm not versed in non-lethal ammunition/weapons and their capability so I cant talk about why policemen arent equipped with other kind of weapons that would have a decreased kill rate ratio. I guess most are too costy/inefficient/still dangerous. And maybe there is someone up there that still prefer some criminals dead than in prison.

[Xant]

If the cop wasn't about to interfere, the robber wouldnt have pointed his gun at him so he wouldn't have to shot and kill him. Why not just call the police in that moment and get that guy arrested later. That's the way to go instead of shooting someone on the street. Oh well, 3rd world obviously.

Say that the robber would have gotten away and been reported. The police find him and go to arrest him. He pulls a gun on them. Now what?

[Miwiw]

Be careful to not get shot, try to take his gun and not let anyone die. Preferable the robber should die in that case though and not anyone else. But deaths should always be avoided. 

I know that doesn't count in america obviously, as there's still the death penalty like in the "good old times".

[Xant]

Be careful to not get shot, try to take his gun and not let anyone die. Preferable the robber should die in that case though and not anyone else. But deaths should always be avoided. 

Do you even know how unreasonable a request that is? Batman can do it, because he's not real. Police officers are real.

Anyway, why does it suddenly become okay for the robber to die? It's fine now that he's sold the motorbike and it'll never be recovered? Because that's literally the only difference. Why is it fine to kill him a bit later but not at the scene of the crime?

[Miwiw]

If he's to arrested, takes out a gun and threatens the life of policemen then, while he's at a dead end, it's obviously better to kill him than having some policemen to die... but the scene in the video only shows a guy robbing a bike, nothing more. He could have taken a knife to threat the guy as well and most people would be clever enough to give up the bike.
Deaths should be avoided, but not at all costs. As I said before that officer shouldn't have taken out his gun in the first place. But as we already disagree at that point, why bother going on more?

Video shows a robbery, your post is 1 a top, a criminal defending himself with a gun. If he uses it, his own fault.

[Artyem]

Be careful to not get shot, try to take his gun and not let anyone die.

Easier said than done, how do you propose you take the gun away from him?  If he's already armed and ready to use his weapon, your options are narrowed down by quite a bit.  Non-lethal weaponry is an option in some cases, but if we're talking about a police raid on an armed suspect's premises, they would probably be packing lethal weaponry / ammunition.

Preferable the robber should die in that case though and not anyone else. But deaths should always be avoided. 

Generally in a situation like that it is preferable to get an arrest rather than a casualty, but sometimes it's the decision between one confirmed death or several possible deaths.  Which is typically why police are quick to put down lethal threats rather than try and arrest them.

[Xant]

If he's to arrested, takes out a gun and threatens the life of policemen then, while he's at a dead end, it's obviously better to kill him than having some policemen to die... but the scene in the video only shows a guy robbing a bike, nothing more. He could have taken a knife to threat the guy as well and most people would be clever enough to give up the bike.
Deaths should be avoided, but not at all costs. As I said before that officer shouldn't have taken out his gun in the first place. But as we already disagree at that point, why bother going on more?

Video shows a robbery, your post is 1 a top, a criminal defending himself with a gun. If he uses it, his own fault.

What? The robber points his gun at the police officer. What makes you think he wouldn't point a gun at the police attempting to arrest him when he clearly has no qualms doing it on the video? What makes "to be arrested" different than what the police officer is doing on the video?

[Lt_Anders]

OMG, so much incorrect spewed. Half you shits need to go to a third world country.

If the crooks are armed, they don't wait to "surrender" they fuking shoot to kill right off the bat.

[Xant]

OMG, so much incorrect spewed. Half you shits need to go to a third world country.

If the crooks are armed, they don't wait to "surrender" they fuking shoot to kill right off the bat.

And I suppose you've experienced this shoot-to-kill firsthand?

[Lt_Anders]

And I suppose you've experienced this shoot-to-kill firsthand?

No, but my family has. I have family that lives in a third world(and more "affluent" country).

The Bahamas. My Father works for This company. You could find him if you searched/knew his name.(and my Stepmother, too. The worked for the local part of the Firm here in town before going overseas to there. He makes, relatively, good money, being a director)

[Xant]

what

[Lt_Anders]

what

You asked if I've experienced this? No, but I visit that country yearly, and have seen the effects it's had on the population. As well as talks with the middle class/upper class locals.

In fact, my father was robbed, at gunpoint, in a famous hotel on the island and lost ~5k USD.(mainly from things like Watch and stuff he was wearing)

And, just an FYI: Owning guns in the bahamas(outside of Shotguns) is illegal...

[zagibu]

Why didn't Jesus shoot the devil? He could have expelled all evil from the world.

[Xant]

You asked if I've experienced this? No, but I visit that country yearly, and have seen the effects it's had on the population. As well as talks with the middle class/upper class locals.

In fact, my father was robbed, at gunpoint, in a famous hotel on the island and lost ~5k USD.(mainly from things like Watch and stuff he was wearing)

And, just an FYI: Owning guns in the bahamas(outside of Shotguns) is illegal...

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Hahahahahhahahaahahahah. What the fuck? Anders, the gangsta-3rd world traveller, visiting........


*drumroll*

The Bahamas.... yearly.

No wonder you've become such an expert on these matters. You and the other five million tourists yearly.