How to fight crime.

[F i n]

What... you think he deserves the bike?

No. But i think he deserves better than being shot in public.

The cop on the other hand deserves a long time in prison.

[Bjord]

No. But i think he deserves better than being shot in public.

The cop on the other hand deserves a long time in prison.

LOL.


Yeah, put the cop in prison, he was doing his job! Unforgivable!

[F i n]

LOL.


Yeah, put the cop in prison, he was doing his job! Unforgivable!

So the job of a cop is to kill ppl. ?

God this topic is filled with maniacs.

[Christo]

what the

i dont even

[Bjord]

So the job of a cop is to kill ppl. ?

God this topic is filled with maniacs.

Finuad, go back to making music and stay off these topics. Okay? Okay.

[F i n]

Finuad, go back to making music and stay off these topics. Okay? Okay.

no.

U better explain why the punishment for stealing a motobike should be death.

[Bjord]

Did you watch the video? The robber had a fucking gun, he pointed it in the other guy's face. The cop should have shot both of those fuckers. It's not about the bike at all.

The cop saw the gun and acted. If he had yelled "Freeze!" or something, who's to say he wouldn't just escape, or turn around and shoot the cop etc. It was within protocol, IMO.

One scumbag less, as I said.

[Molly]

what the

i dont even

If you keep showing up late, I gonna lobby that you get your custom title removed 

[Leshma]

I'd rather see a civilian prevent a crime than nobody.

If criminal is armed, that's not a smart thing to do. Leave that to professionals. Meow once told me that he would always give aid to the weaker when they are in danger (rapist molesting a woman for example). But he's a trained soldier and I'm not. I would still try to help but I'm sure that wouldn't end well. That's why you should always look for law enforcement before you act on your own.

Cop dressed as civilian in his free time is not exactly what I would call a civilian. He still have all necessary skills to prevent crime, only missing backup (which is very important thing to have when dealing with criminals).

But that's how things work in theory and in proper societies. As I said, rural Brazil isn't example of proper society. Just like northeast Mexico, near the border with America and many other places on earth.

[Christo]

If you keep showing up late, I gonna lobby that you get your custom title removed 

I commented few pages back, yesterday

[F i n]

Did you watch the video? The robber had a fucking gun, he pointed it in the other guy's face. The cop should have shot both of those fuckers. It's not about the bike at all.

The cop saw the gun and acted. If he had yelled "Freeze!" or something, who's to say he wouldn't just escape, or turn around and shoot the cop etc. It was within protocol, IMO.

One scumbag less, as I said.

Did the robber actually shoot? No.

Would a human being have been killed if the cop wouldn't have started shooting? No.

Those robbers were about to take off. So they did obviously not try to just kill anyone. Their main intention was to grab the bike and get the hell out of there - do you know why? Did the cop know why? Me neither.

Maybe they needed money for their families (Brazil aint that rich). Maybe the gun wasn't a real one after all.

So basically the cop had to choose between preventing a bike from being stolen and taking a (young) man's life.

Do you really think his decision was right?

Also, if i'm standing 2 metres away from my target, i dont need 2 body shots to take him out.

What about just shooting his leg, arm?


That was no preventive act - that's the pure cowboy-sherrif-IAMAHEROWITHAGUN attitude.

Cops are there to prevent ppl from being harmed not to murder them.

And if there are two ways to prevent harm (stolen bike, taken life) - is it really that hard to choose the right one?

[Molly]

If criminal is armed, that's not a smart thing to do. Leave that to professionals. Meow once told me that he would always give aid to the weaker when they are in danger (rapist molesting a woman for example). But he's a trained soldier and I'm not. I would still try to help but I'm sure that wouldn't end well. That's why you should always look for law enforcement before you act on your own.

Cop dressed as civilian in his free time is not exactly what I would call a civilian. He still have all necessary skills to prevent crime, only missing backup (which is very important thing to have when dealing with criminals).

But that's how things work in theory and in proper societies. As I said, rural Brazil isn't example of proper society. Just like northeast Mexico, near the border with America and many other places on earth.

Preventing a crime doesn't necessarily mean that you should act in a physical way. Already calling the police with a mobile is helping. Making noise, shouting from a distance, pointing with a finger, telling others on the street, finding others to act together... all those things can be done without putting yourself in harms way and still help a lot, always.
I am in the lucky position to know how to handle myself in a bunch of situations but even I have a line I wouldn't cross. Nobody can nor will blame you for not acting physically in a situation that might be harmful for you. They will blame you for doing nothing every time tho...

[Leshma]

Completely disingenuous statement. The fact that he was a thief was an insignificant side story to the far more important fact that he was an armed criminal with a pistol in someone's face threatening to kill them. You think the cop should have warned him, giving him a chance to shoot him instead? Fuck that shit. You don't want to get shot, don't be pointing guns into peoples faces. Its real simple like that.

Of course he should have warned him. Did you watch the video? Robber was on a motorcycle and cop was holding the gun ready to shoot. One warning would do, if he starts motorcycle engine shoot him, if he tries to points a gun at you, again shoot him. But coop shot him from the side without warning. And that's the problem here.

[Leshma]

A lot of dumb weak bundle of stickss with no knowledge of brasilian street gangs and kids in this thread.

Hey asshole, how about you stop insulting people over the internet?

[Swaggart]

Yeah but he's right. Some people have no utter clue about violent crime and pretend its on the same level as stealing bread to feed your family.

It's very easy for people living in white western countries to go oh my this cop should be arrested but you don't live in his reality. South American gangs are utterly brutal and without remorse. Just ask the people of Honduras or El Salvador what they think of the cop's actions.