To our fellow muricans

[Kajia]

Just because you point out my argument-by-assertion logical fallacies doesn't mean what you say is true.

So indeed, a better analogy would be:
X: "There is an invisible pink dragon in my garage."
K: "There is no invisible pink dragon in your garage."
X: "There is an invisible pink dragon in my garage."
K: "OMG DO U EVEN LOGIC"

FTFY

you think this is about being right? dude, I don't need to have an argument, with you of all people, to feel better about myself. if that were the case I wouldn't even try and explain my position in all reasonable detail. I could just as well say you're 'wrong' and what you say is 'false' and avoid any more thinking. but damn, I'm weird that way.

Alright. Random guy pushes you. You punch him, knocking him out, and then walk away.
I never said precise bombing of targets in Syria was supposed to solve any problems.
Of course the Syrian forces and allied ones are allowed to defend their country.

three fucking lines.

so you basically never said something about the bombing, voiced no opinion. and when asked you can't even form some more sentences than that ^ but you come here to throw shit at people who don't support an aggressive war, or think differently about gun posession, and whatnot. you come here and fart and "then walk away". and I try to understand why your fart is pink and not green.
congratz, I very much hope you feel good about yourself, you asshat.

you're a troll, maybe not intentionally, but I don't care.
hm, now that I think about it, I'd say Zlisch is a better troll AND is better at arguing at the same time.

[Xant]

FTFY

you think this is about being right? dude, I don't need to have an argument, with you of all people, to feel better about myself. if that were the case I wouldn't even try and explain my position in all reasonable detail. I could just as well say you're 'wrong' and what you say is 'false' and avoid any more thinking. but damn, I'm weird that way.

That is exactly what you did say. Your explanation explained nothing at all, and I even provided you an example where 'best' is not subjective, yet you ignored it.

three fucking lines.

so you basically never said something about the bombing, voiced no opinion. and when asked you can't even form some more sentences than that ^ but you come here to throw shit at people who don't support an aggressive war, or think differently about gun posession, and whatnot. you come here and fart and "then walk away". and I try to understand why your fart is pink and not green.
congratz, I very much hope you feel good about yourself, you asshat.

you're a troll, maybe not intentionally, but I don't care.
hm, now that I think about it, I'd say Zlisch is a better troll AND is better at arguing at the same time.

I didn't say I said "nothing" about the bombing. I said I never said it'd solve any problems. Reading comprehension is important.

Where have I thrown shit at people who don't support an aggressive war? When have I walked away?

It seems to me like the source of your being upset is that you've constructed some sort of a straw man of me in your head that you're trying hard to defeat, and then it turns out I'm not that straw man. That's tough, bro. Here's the counter-spell: don't make assumptions of what my position is. Indeed, your recent posts are a prime example of the straw man fallacy. I've never said most of the things you claim I have.

Calling "troll" is kind of a cute defense mechanism, though, when you're about to lose an argument badly. But I don't mind.

[Lt_Anders]

Xant, Shut up. Talk more about syria, and less about shit that you get high off of. Go get your homogenous cup of milk and drink it.

[Rumblood]

ITT:

[Xant]

Xant, Shut up. Talk more about syria, and less about shit that you get high off of. Go get your homogenous cup of milk and drink it.

Yeah? Well, I strongly advise you to go and get a caustic soda enema. Let's see which of us takes direction best, shall we.

[Molly]

FTFY

you think this is about being right? dude, I don't need to have an argument, with you of all people, to feel better about myself. if that were the case I wouldn't even try and explain my position in all reasonable detail. I could just as well say you're 'wrong' and what you say is 'false' and avoid any more thinking. but damn, I'm weird that way.
three fucking lines.

so you basically never said something about the bombing, voiced no opinion. and when asked you can't even form some more sentences than that ^ but you come here to throw shit at people who don't support an aggressive war, or think differently about gun posession, and whatnot. you come here and fart and "then walk away". and I try to understand why your fart is pink and not green.
congratz, I very much hope you feel good about yourself, you asshat.

you're a troll, maybe not intentionally, but I don't care.
hm, now that I think about it, I'd say Zlisch is a better troll AND is better at arguing at the same time.

Why is anyone even still bothering with Xant.

All he does is being the Devils advocat when ever he sees fit. I wonder if he even has an own opinion.

Already said that way shorter on page 13 of this thread

Took you a while

[Kajia]

Already said that way shorter on page 13 of this thread

Took you a while

heh.
well, it's at least good practice staying aware of b.s. -- and for my english.
also I haven't talked to Xant before that much, I was honestly curious about how he ticks. I came to agreement with Zlisch on a different complicated matter too, and it was surprisingly enjoyable.

[Xant]

heh.
well, it's at least good practice staying aware of b.s. -- and for my english.
also I haven't talked to Xant before that much, I was honestly curious about how he ticks. I came to agreement with Zlisch on a different complicated matter too, and it was surprisingly enjoyable.

Ah, so you admit your defeat then? Fair enough, I won't even ask what "b.s" you're talking about in that case.

ITT: Kajia accusing me of saying something and 'walking away' and doing it himself two posts later when he notices how badly he's losing an argument.

[Tibe]

Wow, 9 pages, this is literally 1/20th of a choas thread

Yep, Christo has opened a thread full of hate, nonsense and most importantly loads of drama, that drags along endless amount of pages, thanks to many fine citizens. Cant really blame him for it. Him defying the chance for free drama, is him defying his very exsistance. 

[Christo]

Exactly.

[Xant]

Yep, Christo has opened a thread full of hate, nonsense and most importantly loads of drama, that drags along endless amount of pages, thanks to many fine citizens. Cant really blame him for it. Him defying the chance for free drama, is him defying his very exsistance. 

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[Clockworkkiller]

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[Kajia]

Calling "troll" is kind of a cute defense mechanism, though, when you're about to lose an argument badly. But I don't mind.

Ah, so you admit your defeat then? Fair enough, I won't even ask what "b.s" you're talking about in that case.
ITT: Kajia accusing me of saying something and 'walking away' and doing it himself two posts later when he notices how badly he's losing an argument.

winning and losing? man, even if winning or losing were of any relevancy, your much-quoted source says: "They [arguments] are no longer instruments of the truth", as soon as you argue to defeat an opponent. but you can rest assured, it is not, relevant that is.

a debate is to look at problems that occur to find solutions, questioning and re-evaluating worldviews, while respecting each other (avoiding ad hominem). the initial disagreement was interesting to me, but you ruined it by nitpicking and using to your two-valued logic, where no one can beat you as it's mathematically impossible: you say A and you repeat it until your opponent loses any motivation to point out how B, C and D are also valuable thoughts. then you declare yourself the winner or the opponent a loser. that is b.s., bad science.

I'm pretty sure you're smart enough to know this, so me pointing it out is just to show that I am perfectly aware.
also, belittling me won't help a single bit.

IT'S NOT TO LATE TO POST BOOB PICS

true that!

[Xant]

winning and losing? man, even if winning or losing were of any relevancy, your much-quoted source says: "They [arguments] are no longer instruments of the truth", as soon as you argue to defeat an opponent. but you can rest assured, it is not, relevant that is.

a debate is to look at problems that occur to find solutions, questioning and re-evaluating worldviews, while respecting each other (avoiding ad hominem). the initial disagreement was interesting to me, but you ruined it by nitpicking and using to your two-valued logic, where no one can beat you as it's mathematically impossible: you say A and you repeat it until your opponent loses any motivation to point out how B, C and D are also valuable thoughts. then you declare yourself the winner or the opponent a loser. that is b.s., bad science.

That is what that LessWrong article says, yes. As always, you quote something that has no relevance to the argument you're trying to make. Of course arguments are no longer the instruments of truth when you argue to defeat an opponent. Common sense. And the relevance of this was....

You will find that you started the ad hominem attacks, not I ("he's wrong because he's a troll"). There have been no ad hominems from me (try to prove me wrong, find an ad hominem). You nitpicked, not me. You used two-valued logic, not me. See how that works when you don't provide any evidence? It just turns into "no u." But then again, every time I ask you to answer something you ignore it, so no surprise there. I declare myself the winner when you quit the argument by declaring me a troll (defense mechanism) after I ask you questions that we both know you can't answer, because you made your accusations up.