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chadz saved the mod, hail chadz, boo Paul.

[Testicleez]

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[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

The new 1h thrust might be a bit too powerful, on the other hand this could just be my 31 pierce actually feeling like 31 pierce now.

[Tomas]

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I'm highly interested in feedback on the animation optimizations. This will likely affect weapon balance, so feel free to explain any differences you guys notice.

It looks exactly the same, but if you use the appearance of the animation(how far your arm has extended) as an indicator for when to hit your opponent, you'll likely have to spend a little bit getting used to the change.

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That is the sweetspot for all thrusts in crpg, it's paired with a line for how far the arm has extended to its maximum length(in %) for the native 1h thrust animation(what we currently use). Notice anything funny? The sweet spot and the arm extension don't line up at all, they're entirely separate. Not only that, but the point where your arm is fully extended falls completely outside of the sweetspot. This means a perfectly timed 1h thrust will only result in ~60% of the maximum range the animation can provide. So I simply optimized the animation's progression so that the arm starts extending earlier in the animation, allowing you to utilize its full potential. It should "feel" like it doesn't glance as often at max range. The polearm thrust was somewhat like this, too, just not nearly as out of place.
Haboe, you wanted to know specifics, this is one of them. The 2h animation is perfectly progressed so that it falls within the sweetspot at the optimal time. So now, in this area, the thrusts are on an even playing field. Unfortunately, the 2h thrust still originates at head level and from the center of the body. This means that even though you hit outside of the optimal sweet spot, you can still end up doing a fair amount of damage because like the 1h left swing, you're probably going to hit your opponents face without even trying to. And you can't forget, the 2h thrust still has the longest reach gained because of how the character stretches.
None of the animation optimizations other than the polearm left-to-right swing are live as of this moment.

Edit: I just want to mention that even with native sweetspots, the animation progression still doesn't fit, so this isn't a problem created by cRPG. It was created by TW not giving a shit.

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This isn't a Taleworlds mistake - it is simply their attempt to mirror real life physics.

The point at which any attack is at its most potent is the point where the weapon has high momentum AND the arms are not fully extended so that they are able to continue applying force to the weapon during contact.  This occurs in the middle of the swing or thrust not at the end.

[Teeth]

Do these changes in any way mess with my ability to pike abuse?

[Tydeus]

The new 1h thrust might be a bit too powerful, on the other hand this could just be my 31 pierce actually feeling like 31 pierce now.

Yes. This is why I have been saying I will really need feedback and will likely have to tweak stats. The animations were not even remotely optimized for the hitspots. This isn't just a cRPG issue, it's a Warband issue in general. I've actually thought about optimizing all animations and releasing it as a mod of sorts on the TW forums. I'd be working with different sweet spots though and I don't play much warband outside of cRPG anymore, so idk.

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Going to post this here so more people can see it.

This isn't a Taleworlds mistake - it is simply their attempt to mirror real life physics.

The point at which any attack is at its most potent is the point where the weapon has high momentum AND the arms are not fully extended so that they are able to continue applying force to the weapon during contact.  This occurs in the middle of the swing or thrust not at the end.

You give them too much credit. 2 full frames of the arm not doing a damned thing being within the sweet spot, isn't mirroring physics. It might need a bit of tweaking now, but it's a lot closer to where it should be, than where it was.

[Molly]

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Going to post this here so more people can see it.

This isn't a Taleworlds mistake - it is simply their attempt to mirror real life physics.

The point at which any attack is at its most potent is the point where the weapon has high momentum AND the arms are not fully extended so that they are able to continue applying force to the weapon during contact.  This occurs in the middle of the swing or thrust not at the end.

This. First thing that came to my mind too. Everyone who is even remotely connected to any fighting tells you that you have to hit "behind" the target.

[Latvian]

lets hope you fixd this http://forum.meleegaming.com/crpg-technical-problems/unplayable-52424/
everything else can go fuck itself

[Kalp]

fix horsespawns on strat battles

[Turkhammer]

FIX the broken pike/spear/lance-spin/3 centimeter stab exploit please.

[ARN_]

Update eu7 maybe?

[Turkhammer]

Do these changes in any way mess with my ability to pike abuse?

Course not.

[Mala]

I'm highly interested in feedback on the animation optimizations. This will likely affect weapon balance, so feel free to explain any differences you guys notice.

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after a few siege rounds i like it so far. i had not that much occasions to test the stab in very close combat but there was a noticeable difference at max range.
before the patch i have wiffed alot if i have tried a long stab to use the full lenght (haha) of my short sword, sometimes even against cloth armour.
now such attacks connect more reliably and a i was able to wound heavy armoured fighters quite often, what is good for me and bad for them.

[San]

1h right swing and polearm overheads are finally fixed. Great job.

Edit: To go into more detail on the right swing:

Due to the pause that was felt before, it was pretty difficult to actually gauge your maximum range. There were times where I would try to hit someone slightly to my right and I would miss if I turned. Other swings could also release much later than the right swing and still win out. Now, it feels like the hitbox and the sword matches up properly, and the whole animation feels much more fluid. It might be a bit fast, but it's closer to the overhead now in terms of speed, so it's not like you can spam with it so easily, too. I feel it hit a nice sweetspot with its speed. Its roles as an opener and distance punishing are much more adequately served.

1h stabs also feel correct, from the receiver's point of view. I feel like I get hit when I should, and it glances on me when it should, after the thrust has already followed through.