Why oh why are 2h and pole arms still OP?

[Punisher]

1. Animations make them faster.
2.i am talking about move when 2h is facehugging you and hitting right trough your shield. Deniers are usually the worst abusers.

1. Most 2h/polearms users spin during the animation, thus making it hit earlier in the swing arc, looking like it's faster.
2. That's you releasing the shield too early, same thing as held hits passing through manual blocks. If you keep your shield raised it is impossible to get hit.

[Vibe]

1. Animations make them faster.
2.i am talking about move when 2h is facehugging you and hitting right trough your shield. Deniers are usually the worst abusers.

1. People make it faster by turning into their swings (like Punisher said)
2. You do realize that at a certain angle your autoblock shield does not work anymore. Same goes if I (with 2H) block a right attack with right block, but the guy goes around me far enough to make it "miss" the block and hit me in the back. It's a thing called footwork.

[Ironclaw]

2. Yes i agree that it has smthing to do with right angle but the hit is still coming through my shield and thats a glitch just like hitting trough doors.

[RandomDude]

To be good at any class takes some sort of skill. It's easier to defend as a 1h but it's easier to kill as a 2h.

When i played 1h I found it scary to fight 2h sometimes as it took me a while to get the timing right. Once I got that down I could spam them as much as they could spam me.

2hs usually hate being face hugged and when the 1h is doing akmars on you it's even harder.

[Tristan]

tl;dr to original poster:
They are not stronger. I am sorry to say, but they are just plain better players than you are. Try and take a twohander yourself and see how you deal with it.

I really don't care much for these balance discussion. Shame shit over and over.

I started out as a shielder because I sucked at blocking. Then I learned blocking and started as a two-hander with decent results.
Then I played cav get great results with my morningstar and horse (talking about a once op class) switching to twohander up close.
Then I went polearm with great results and now I am one-hander with shield once again.

What did I learn?

1) Two-handers and polearm players are not inherently faster as a class than one-handers. The players tend to be more experienced and just plain better players. Give Phyrex, Siiem, Jormglorm, vMega and what not a shield, and they would kick you ass too. There are just some people currently playing twohanders or polearms that are extremely skilled. This has nothing to do with class.

2) As a cav in a pub server you get great K/D. People are to unaware to deal with them.

3) As a shielder I am not rarely in the top 5. Other great shielders such as Vicious, Kingrimm, Olwen what not are often there. I believe a lot of two-handers fear those players.

Why did I change to shielder? (with a pokey side arm)
Because in team play they are invaluable. Plain and simple. With enough shielders you shocktroops and archers have protection while they do the killing.

Just wait for strat... Shields are needed in organised team play, where individual skills matters less (because the overall skill is higher).

[v/onMega]

Armelius sums it up.

+1

[Xant]

1) Two-handers and polearm players are not inherently faster as a class than one-handers. The players tend to be more experienced and just plain better players. Give ... Siiem .. what not a shield, and they would kick you ass too.

Woah woah woah woaaaaah... if you're talking about kicking his teammates' ass from behind then sure, but otherwise you waaayy off base bro

[Siiem]

Woah woah woah woaaaaah... if you're talking about kicking his teammates' ass from behind then sure, but otherwise you waaayy off base bro

[Ironclaw]

Aemalius maybe you should learn some more...

People play 2h becouse this class is strongest (easyest to play) class. Easyest way to get some kills is to grab a huge axe and start swinging.
And dont start with the olwen goretooth vicious and the scoreboard story again.


For me it's not about nerfing somebody, i just want people to admit that 2h is easymode not sword'n'broad.

[Siiem]

Aemalius maybe you should learn some more...

People play 2h becouse this class is strongest (easyest to play) class. Easyest way to get some kills is to grab a huge axe and start swinging.
And dont start with the olwen goretooth vicious and the scoreboard story again.


For me it's not about nerfing somebody, i just want people to admit that 2h is easymode not sword'n'broad.

Yes, must be alot harder to block 4 guys attacking you, when you use a shield then with a polearm/2h.

[Ironclaw]

If 4 guys attacking you only thing you can do is block with your shield.

[Siiem]

If 4 guys attacking you only thing you can do is block with your shield.

Exactly, atleast you can block it.

[BlackMilk]

If 4 guys attacking you only thing you can do is block with your shield.

No. You can also run away or just kill em.

[Ironclaw]

For how long? To win  a round you have to kill them for that you need to hit not to block.

[Dezilagel]

U Bin Laden Trolling?