Wolves point of view

[Rogue]

I still see that Mercs has still a lot of problem with the truth , so they still make up their own.
I'll tell you when all of this started.
It started (strategus 3) when mercs who were enemy came up with plan were Kinngrinn was supposed to betray us (Pecores , Camel and Templar), and Kinngrimm prentended to, but stood loyal to us.
Mercs hated Kinngrimm because he choosed to betray the betrayers and plotters , and to stand by his first a real alliance with us.
I''m glad to say i've played two strategus with the Wolf Clan , and they never tried to betray us nor scam us. Never seen such a loyal clan in the whole strategus thing...

PS: If you don't want people to attack you , you should avoid to shout "Shut the fuck up" to diplomat comming to your teamspeak. Your desastrous behavior is the reason you deserve all this.

That is not even close to what happened.

[Heibai]

Maybe it's the influence of the Mercs side, but for some reason, I see the Wolves and especially the GO always as the "evil" one in Strategus. :s
Some of the people seems also unfriendly and meany, at least to me 

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[vipere]

Maybe it's the influence of the Mercs Greys/Wolves side, but for some reason, I see the Wolves Apostates and especially the Go Mercs always as the "evil" one in Strategus. :s

Some of the people seems also unfriendly and meany, at least to me 

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Change few words and you have my point of view 

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[Heibai]

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[Tuetensuppe]

I still see that Mercs has still a lot of problem with the truth , so they still make up their own.
I'll tell you when all of this started.
It started (strategus 3) when mercs who were enemy came up with plan were Kinngrinn was supposed to betray us (Pecores , Camel and Templar), and Kinngrimm prentended to, but stood loyal to us.
Mercs hated Kinngrimm because he choosed to betray the betrayers and plotters , and to stand by his first a real alliance with us.
I''m glad to say i've played two strategus with the Wolf Clan , and they never tried to betray us nor scam us. Never seen such a loyal clan in the whole strategus thing...

PS: If you don't want people to attack you , you should avoid to shout "Shut the fuck up" to diplomat comming to your teamspeak. Your desastrous behavior is the reason you deserve all this.

as a former elder of the wolves i have to say that you got a nice fable there or as roque said it

That is not even close to what happened.

and for grandmom:

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Could someone confirm this is what happened, ...

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[KingBread]

nice essay 6/10 would unban but pls be nice in future.

[Rebelyell]

That is not even close to what happened.

I like that version more^^

[Cosmos_Shielder]

well maybe you have not seen everything tuetensuppe. Because merc never planned to have us (pecores ) in the desert . It was supposed to be kappikulu Nord , and HRE north in kedelke and Zagush. .... I still remember their claim map. From my point of view Kinngrimm sticked to what he promised us , and never betrayed us. and weren't you a Cotgs at this time?
remember this http://i.cubeupload.com/7Jfz9u.png  ?
when everyone arranged with the other to get their claim unclaimed , and when we templar , wolves and pecores weren't invited to it?
When we kicked kapikulu , hre , and all the unwanted from that area?

[Tyr_]

Em, what you dont seem to know is that the map which you just posted got created before the next strat round started and it just shows the territorys that clans claimed for themselves in their diplomacy thread before strat?
Also this is not even the finished maps, union claims are missing, the territories we claime overlapped. Also 22nd claims arent in. There wasnt much arranging with other clan at this time.
I can only repeat myself, you seem to have not the slightest idea of what was going on^^.

[Casimir]

To deny that some factions (mercs included) conspired to turn Kinngrimm against those he had an agreement with is false. However its ridiculous for people to call upon events that occurred over a year ago to justify petty squabbles now.

The simple truth is that both sides are rather petty and unable to take responsibility for their own mistakes.

[GRANDMOM]

Not that it matters to me that much, but its interessting to see the different view of this. And also, since this seem to be one of many reasons for the current situation in strat its fun to hear about.

And Teuten, I can say that Kinny has confirmed this, invited to a plot against his alliance (templar and so on) he went along with it and then betrayed the plotters but stayed true to his alliance with templars. Some will say he is lying, however, I believe him.

[Cosmos_Shielder]

Em, what you dont seem to know is that the map which you just posted got created before the next strat round started and it just shows the territorys that clans claimed for themselves in their diplomacy thread before strat?
Also this is not even the finished maps, union claims are missing, the territories we claime overlapped. Also 22nd claims arent in. There wasnt much arranging with other clan at this time.
I can only repeat myself, you seem to have not the slightest idea of what was going on^^.

there wasn't much arranging really? That's why every other claim didn't get contester excepted ours ?
What a real candide guy you are
You think i don't know what happened , because you only know what you've seen on the forum. I was leader of pecores and i had to do diplomacy at least one hour a day , and sometimes i could stay 4 hours talking with kinngrimm. I even had access to some confidential google docs were mercs and hre and their plann with kinngrimm . But if you still want to believe to the forum version , it's up to you
You hate kinngrimm because when you wanted  to plot to turn him against his real alliance , he decided to spy on you , because he refused to plot with his enemy .

[Thovex]

well maybe you have not seen everything tuetensuppe. Because merc never planned to have us (pecores ) in the desert . It was supposed to be kappikulu Nord , and HRE north in kedelke and Zagush. .... I still remember their claim map. From my point of view Kinngrimm sticked to what he promised us , and never betrayed us. and weren't you a Cotgs at this time?
remember this http://i.cubeupload.com/7Jfz9u.png  ?
when everyone arranged with the other to get their claim unclaimed , and when we templar , wolves and pecores weren't invited to it?
When we kicked kapikulu , hre , and all the unwanted from that area?

That map is my map, it was just a map of rumors & what people claimed said in the thread from last strategus. (Or was it one before that?)

Nords, Kapikulu, Pecores, Templars never claimed theirs however during that time, this was just rumors iirc.

[Cosmos_Shielder]

how could it be that templars and pecores didn't claim but wolves did? We were an alliance , the desert alliance,  our claim were the same

[Thovex]

I don't give a shit about what happened, I doubt Wolves claimed their shit either back then but it's old so I don't remember and I don't care.