xp loss-free respec for under level 20 chars

[Tore]

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would stop guys from respeccing so they can only own noobs with their katana in max lvl 20

[Herkkutatti666]

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would stop guys from respeccing so they can only own noobs with their katana in max lvl 20

wat

[Macropus]

The problem about this suggestion though is that EU_5 will only have 2h-heroes playing on it. Not a big deal, but still...

[Herkkutatti666]

The problem about this suggestion though is that EU_5 will only have 2h-heroes playing on it. Not a big deal, but still...

lel how does this have anything  to do with 2hers.... and what would they gain? they get mor exp but just to level up to 21, no more gold or anything.

[Macropus]

lel how does this have anything  to do with 2hers.... and what would they gain? they get mor exp but just to level up to 21, no more gold or anything.

Twohanders is the easiest class to level up on EU_5, so people would just play it till lvl 20 and then respec to what they originally wanted.
The only problem is losing diversity of classes on EU_5. Although, as I said, it's not a big deal.

[Huscarlton_Banks]

Sounds good, losing lots of progress because you don't fully understand builds can be discouraging, and it probably wouldn't have any effect on Strategus gameplay.

[Jarold]

I don't see how two handers level up faster then any other class. I think it is more player dependant on how fast you level. Like gen bonus and shit.

I am in full support here because I respec a lot. XD

[Elindor]

I don't see how two handers level up faster then any other class.

Yeah, not sure about this either.  Logic?

Leveling comes from time in game and multipliers (and gen bonus).  Time in game is the same regardless, and multipliers come to those who win rounds (which honestly depending on the mode, 1h/shield, cav or other classes are the ones who win those, not necessarily 2h), and as for valour - shielders are the best way to farm points for valour...

[Bulzur]

Yeah, not sure about this either.  Logic?

Leveling comes from time in game and multipliers (and gen bonus).  Time in game is the same regardless, and multipliers come to those who win rounds (which honestly depending on the mode, 1h/shield, cav or other classes are the ones who win those, not necessarily 2h), and as for valour - shielders are the best way to farm points for valour...

Leveling in eu5 is easier when you're a melee build. And the easiest when it's a 2handers.

Cavs can only mount "decent" 3 riding horses if they're nearly naked on top of it.
Range always have their best (x)bows and (bolts/)arrows mw, and since the lack of diversity of (x)bow, they have to use shitty ones, with shitty ammo, or just go melee with 0 PS.

Throwing is okay. But the lack of number of throwers, means a lack of ammo. And 4 stacks of throwing weapons is hella expensive.

So melee.
1handers need to block the first swing of a 2h. Unless they use a shield. Wich would mean a slow shield.
Polearms need the agility to effectively spam their weapon, so it's also less effective.


This is on eu5 only, of course.

[Elindor]

I see.

Well even still what you're really saying is that melee is the best way to win rounds, and 2h is the most effective form of melee on that server.  So to win rounds, play 2h.

The initial statement was reading more like "2h gains experience at a faster rate than other classes", which of course is not true.

[Macropus]

Well even still what you're really saying is that melee is the best way to win rounds, and 2h is the most effective form of melee on that server.  So to win rounds, play 2h.

Yes, on EU_5.
As for other servers, this becomes doubtful because of larger amount of ranged players.

The initial statement was reading more like "2h gains experience at a faster rate than other classes", which of course is not true.

What I said was

Twohanders is the easiest class to level up on EU_5

, I don't see how you can disagree with that if you admit that
1) Melee is easier to win on EU5, and
2) 2h the easiest to win rounds on EU5.
If you win rounds more, it's pretty obvious that you get more exp.
Anyway, I don't play EU5 anymore, so, whatever, I don't really care. As for new players, that suggestion would be nice for them for sure.

[Herkkutatti666]

punp

[Herkkutatti666]

punp

[Tore]

benis

[Jeade]

Twohanders is the easiest class to level up on EU_5, so people would just play it till lvl 20 and then respec to what they originally wanted.
The only problem is losing diversity of classes on EU_5. Although, as I said, it's not a big deal.

I would second this, actually.
I leveled a few times to 30 as 2h just to respec when I got there back to archery so I could bypass all the annoying levels as a low power archer. If free respecs at level 20 were an option, I'd absolutely go that route, and I'm sure others would too. Then again, sub-20 archers are practically free kills, an annoyance at best, but it would kill diversity if people thought ahead to do that.

There's another thread in here suggesting a fix on the spec process if one accidentally mis-clicked and fucked their spec. I think that might be a better option- STF's have infinite respecs now and are perfect for testing new builds ahead of time. If it's a mistake in spec'ing, perhaps a fix to the current system would be the best route.