Horses have no natural predators

[Magikarp]

You've got nothing but falsehoods. A lie told often enough is truth? Not when the evidence is reviewed by those with eyes that see. I'm certain that most of the Dev's are able. But you may continue your spam and imagine that you are accomplishing your goal. 

Falsehoods and lies? Pretty much sums it up for your unbacked arguments.

@Gorath: Viable is something different than being more effective than others.

[PhantomZero]

but they aren't offensive weapons in that you can run after and hunt cav with them.

 

[Gorath]

@Gorath: Viable is something different than being more effective than others.

No, Viable is having an equal effective nature compared to most.

[Magikarp]

No, Viable is having an equal effective nature compared to most.

Viable is what I call a class that can get a positive k/d.
Effective is something totally different.

Plus you calling onehanders/2handers on a horse being worthless, is just laughable at best.

[Furax]

Just read about half of this whining, and well, sure its easy to lance someone, as long as they try to outrange your lance instead of blocking. Wow..real OP shit

Every unarmoured horse will die from one arrow of anything anywhere if your going fast enough towards it.

All the kills i get as a cav is backstabs(unaware people) And lolstabbers trying to get my horse instead of blocking. So the fact that other people are kill hungry and messes up because they think 190 range is less than 120.. Its noones fault but your own if you die that way.

[Gorath]

Viable is what I call a class that can get a positive k/d.

That would be a naked guy punching.  Kill 1 peasant, log off.   

Plus you calling onehanders/2handers on a horse being worthless, is just laughable at best.

1handers on horseback are merely backup weapons.  I have yet to see a PURE non-lance melee cav (IE a 1her) do well enough to ever take notice of.  2h'd cav are just silly, no shield for ranged protection and very very very limited 2hers with which to select from to use on horseback.  Morning star is different because 90% of the time it is pretty much used as a 1her on horseback (IE:  with the shield)

[EponiCo]

Uhm, what.

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Seriously, on EU there's quite a couple of people playing cav with sword or axe that do make a difference. But then 20% cav is more normality for us also.

[UrLukur]

Merc_Lizardman is pure 1h cav and he do just fine, was often topping scoreboard. Also one templar did it pre-patch, but i can't remember his name (i would have to see it, then i would instantly recognize him).

[Bjarky]

yeah there seems to be a difference between Eu and NA, EU have way more 1h and 2h cav than NA has.
Its pretty interesting to see how well a 1h cav can do, once u figure out how to, its pretty effectice.

[UrLukur]

yeah there seems to be a difference between Eu and NA, EU have way more 1h and 2h cav than NA has.
Its pretty interesting to see how well a 1h cav can do, once u figure out how to, its pretty effectice.

1h cav is actually very good for countering archers and 1h players, not to mention it's very reliable backstabbing and works wonder in group combat (perfect for supporting footman fighting other footman).

[Magikarp]

With a onehander as a weapon on horseback, you would be more effective against archers, since the weapon is best for close quarters, where they are useless.

[Reinhardt]

I continually get thrown, shot, or stabbed off of my horse because: While riding to an enemy, They can put up their crossbow, wait... wait some more, shoot, them I'm 1-shot because I'm forced to wear light armor. Same with throwing weapons... and bows.

I don't understand. A skilled cavalryman can top the scoreboards just as a skilled 2her can anymore. "

Cavalry should be a 1 in 50 player thing and should not be able to top the scoreboards... EVER!" Is pretty much what I understand from the "nerf whines".

Nerfing certain aspects (perhaps the heirlooms just a little bit) and buffing the sounds horses make (more metal sounds works for cRPG AFAIK, guys....) will be acceptable. This will fix peopel's problems about cav being "OP" even though players are generally just annoyed and pissed off because they get killed from behind because they're unaware, because they have no melee weapon, or because they made a mistake. Also, the speed on horses + your ("poor", "nerfed", "unuseful") arrow = horse dead.


And realize (quoting from what someone else said in this topic) that cavalry dies for every little mistake they make. At least infantry have some chance to backpedal.


Anyway, this whole topic is useless now. Dev's will nerf cav, cav players will QQ (Myself included) due to overnerf, nerf gets fixed/overfixed, cav gets nerfed again.

You can see cav players on the field now. Deal with it.

[Magikarp]

Can't really understand why an heirloom nerf is in order, only the Sarranid (aka Arabian War-)Horse needs a nerf.
Heirloom nerf will hit armoured horses even more, they will be utterly useless.

[Tzar]

Can't really understand why an heirloom nerf is in order, only the Sarranid (aka Arabian War-)Horse needs a nerf.
Heirloom nerf will hit armoured horses even more, they will be utterly useless.

Dont forgot about the formula 1 courser

[Huey Newton]

In NA cav isn't op...
Not as much cav as there are in EU (I've plyed on Eu servers)
ranged weapons balance out cav fine
2-4 arrows horsey dead
1-3 throwing weapons horsey dead
1 pike horsey dead

nerfing heirlooms for horses is a bad idea
like magikarp said
Arabian horse needs a bad nerf
it turns unnaturally well
nothing can turn with it an therefore it can take angles that Noone can fuck with

drop is maneveur to 45
and it will only have 49 maneuver at champion