No Balls, No Honor.

[ArysOakheart]

WTF! YOU PROMISED ME IT WAS ALL SECRETS. JERK!

I didn't name names! You just incriminated yourself, what have you done!?

Edit: I have his picture as my wallpaper. I even shopped in a longspear.

[Kinzie]

Edit: I have his picture as my wallpaper. I even shopped in a longspear.

That's... kinda creepy... haha.   

[Ragnar_Ulfson]

I will duel you in his place.  Get your bitch tags ready.

No one cares Giggle / Rainbow

[wayyyyyne]

Say that to my face fucker on NA_3 and see what happens

[Lennu]

Say that to my face fucker on NA_3 and see what happens

You're never on NA_3?

[Malaclypse]

With the guy winning who is most adept at abusing native 2h stab, yeah, gg. Native is a different game by now, and cRPG 2h heroes are at an advantage there.

The fact that people still think duelling skill has anything to do with skill at the game troubles me more.

Doesn't that first part imply that they'll both be using 2h's? Since proficiencies and everything will be equal, couldn't they easily duel with 1-hands or polearms? Maybe 1 duel with each class of melee? + each class or ranged? + cav? Think about it, Teeth, widen your gaze!

Though I do agree with the second part. Dueling skill and battle awareness + the ability to work with people are different things.

[owens]

The idea that being a good duelist does not make you better at cRPG in general is bullshit.
A good duelist will be able to land more hits, faster on a target.



The key method of dueling can be broken down

*own effective radius (each attack)

*opponents effective radius (each attack)

*blocking  succesful as much possible on as many angles as possible

*footwork      -needing to block on as few angles as possible as little as possible

                    -making your opponent need to block as awkwardly as possible as often as possible

*Attack direction choice       ping, opponent speed, skill, armour, spacial relationship to you, turnspeed, velocity relative to you, wpf, damage, stun potential..........directly linked to footwork

*aggresion and attack frequency         balancing risk and reward

*shield hp    for hoplites and sword and board players

*feinting, kicking and pausing       again balancing risk and reward

*kick feints, deadmeat77's and any other tricks

There are many more factors to consider. I challenge anyone to find a skill listed above that you shouldnt consider employing in battle during any kind of melee combat.

[Kadeth]

I challenge anyone to find a skill listed above that you shouldnt consider employing in battle during any kind of melee combat.[/i]

Would you seriously use kick feints in a group fighting situation?

[Teeth]

Doesn't that first part imply that they'll both be using 2h's? Since proficiencies and everything will be equal, couldn't they easily duel with 1-hands or polearms?

Please, it's native duel. You know they will be using 2h's.

Yes Shema, M won a duel tournament with a spear, doesn't change anything.

[Gurnisson]

Would you seriously use kick feints in a group fighting situation?

Very situational, but can be very useful from time to time as well.


Also, owens, while all your points are true you can still do awful on battle/strat/clan battles even if you're a good duelist. Awareness, teamwork and decision making is powerful tools that I've seen many of the "OH SO SKILLED 2H" doesn't have. Looking at them spamming their impressive feinting into the ground when there's an enemy infantry and cavalry behind him. It's just sad to watch.
 
You need both set of skills to do really well.

[karasu]

I'll bring my fire stones as soon as I win them at the auction.

Once all the artifacts of Paranoia are mine, we shall have a good old fashion BURNING!!! MUHAHAHHAHA

[Rainbow]

Are you going to accept my duel or pretend you aren't reading this?  bohahahahahhaaha.

[Tanken]

Were you asking me Rainbow? I wasn't quite sure so I passed over it the first time.

[Rainbow]

Ya.  I will challenge you to an honor duel!  GiggleKnight_of_TKoV.  Bitch tags for the loser?  :-).  This could be fun.

[Tanken]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


I suppose I could.....best of 9? Drag it out a little bit?


And bitch tags just for 1 week, no month long shit. You'll have to wait until I get off work though.