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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #60 on: April 10, 2013, 05:33:16 pm »
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I think if the game hadnt bored almost all of us to death with all the crafting and incredibly slow trade running, FCC would have joined the green tide - I don't know if we would have been beating the DRZ like Fallen, HRE, and us did to them and their allies in Strat 2, but it would have been fun to have all our horsemen and archers helping out in those fights and of course our glorious general Huey Newton to command the battles (charge head-on from behind).

The original plan was for chaos+lljk to attack FCC(+tkov) and hospitaller+occitan at the same time before you quit, for it to be an interesting 3 way war. So I doubt it.
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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #61 on: April 10, 2013, 05:47:52 pm »
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 I yolo'd at DRZ in 3.0. :(

I tricked them by changing my faction name to Droozena so they would never expect it.

But if DRZ invades NA and NA doesn't all unite unanimously to defeat them, I will be very cross. Especially if any large NA clan joins their side. 3.0 was absolutely terrible all across the board, I'm glad I took a vacation from strat during those times.
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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #62 on: April 10, 2013, 05:49:43 pm »
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Idk if you were here for last strat when they did actually wipe us lol. But the big swinging dicks of the Carebear Alliances of Chaos, HoC, and LLJK ( 3 original clans of the Green Alliance, and later on clans like MB and TkoV joined in.) had a bunch of epic battle before being wiped. But the three leaders were essentially me, Canary, and Smoothrich. Were were rolling over almost everyone in NA and then came the war with Hosp. That is probably my favorite war of any strat. There wasnt really any drama or clan to clan grudges or anything like that. Just great diplomacy, good communication, and some epic battles. (that i know of) It was so back and forth and so epic. But eventually we pushed Hosp back into their steppe homelands.

As seen here in this image I took almost 3 hours to make in Adobe Illustrator, MS Paint pro, and flash. Showed the final resolution for Hosp.
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But then things fell apart when SpergRich collapsed LLJK from the inside out. We were all just about to move in our armies to when that happened. Shorty after Druzina came along and started shit stomping everyone and everything in its path. We were simply just outmanned and out gunned. But we made some epic final stands.

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Me and you remember that war quite differently. After drz attacked that first trader and shit hit the fan, the mastermind leaders of the green alliance just folded. Idk if you can still do research on this, but almost all of the chaos battles were fought as ATTACKERS at EU PRIMETIME. I remember a saturday where canay had to lead like 5 battles attacking in mail vs plate, and all the battles were like .3:1.

I kept hearing things like, "oh drz is cool lets fight them like this cuz it's fair."

 Whoever thought that fighting the UIF, the known cheaters, carebears, and killers of EU strat both then and now, deserved to be fought "fairly" after they cheaply ganked the green machine, pretty much ruined the fun for everyone in NA.



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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #63 on: April 10, 2013, 06:07:06 pm »
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I know FCC yoloed into ATS only fief right before they left for star wars. I think it may have been led by Huey but I am not sure if he was the first (failed) or second wave.

Lol not even close - we took that one village after 2 easy attacks and had used bhulaban as a trading outpost for a while.  We had huge armies in our home base and some in bhulaban and fallen and hre had taken almost all the hospitaller and occitan fiefs just before they got carried by a large eu clan alliance but with how slow movement was it took ages to do anything.  After fallen got carpet-bombed for attacking their own fief (this doesnt happen anymore to people in this strat because devs dont care if you break the rules), we had a vote about it - most of us were playing skyrim, league of legends, and killing Floor Christmas edition for almost a month at that time and were starting star wars.  Voted to give away all our stuff to clans we wanted to help including the large armies and equipment. 
       Then while we were only active enough to transfer the fiefs (had already transferred a couple) a couple days before christmas some random small eu clan attacked one at 6 am - we didn't even notice - we had like 6 mercs show for our side we cared so little and only one or 2 of them was our clan members.  Capped flags and got the huge army and gear inside it, took several waves of attacks to take it back mostly because most of us didn't even care enough to show up for the battles.  Probably would have given the fief to the guy who attacked it or let him keep it but he was a sad tool who pretty much attacked at 6 am on purpose right before christmas, so we put a last little bit of effort by a few people to wipe him off the map basicallly fighting our own troops and gear because they could cap flags on the 6 am battle, and on the second battle he  took advantage of a bug where most of our guys were continually disconnecting en-masse every few seconds (even though he was an admin/dev) to cap flags instead of waiting to see if someone in irc could fix things like we were trying to do.  it was a weird fucking bug too attackers would get mass disconnects on their side in waves and in other battles admins would ask people to wait to see if it would stabilize and clans didnt take advantage of it.  needless to say after that abuse by an admin we pretty much finished giving away the rest of our fiefs and were glad to be gone from a boring, buggy, boring trade simulator game.  That sums up how we left the game.  had nothing to do with hospergllers or ats or drz or anyone else, more boredom and watching carpet bombing and other punishments being meted out primarily against factions devs didnt like while doing nothing to other factions.
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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #64 on: April 10, 2013, 06:13:13 pm »
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I know FCC yoloed into ATS only fief right before they left for star wars. I think it may have been led by Huey but I am not sure if he was the first (failed) or second wave.

I keep trying to bring that man back, but he is happy couching team-mates in War Thunder. :) He once tried to land on my Japanese float plane while in mid air, taking us both out. Of course its all equip screen bugs and accidents, Huey would never do things intentionally like that.  :rolleyes:

Oh.. thread derailings. Yes, sometimes taking a break is the best thing . Not everyone will return, but those who do will come back with a renewed interest in the game.  I also recommend trying out fun builds when they do return, Chucky is a great example. That man knows how to have fun even when the devs keep nerfing him because lets be real, he is the best thrower in all of c-rpg.
^there were a lot of errors in this thought because I used super sonic typing mode to try to get it in so I didn't get a green watch when Kalam was around.
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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #65 on: April 10, 2013, 07:04:35 pm »
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lol not even close - we took that one village after 2 easy attacks

It was so easy that you needed fallen to give you troops/gear for the second attack?

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After fallen got carpet-bombed for attacking their own fief,  we had a vote about it - most of us were playing skyrim, league of legends, and killing Floor Christmas edition for almost a month at that time and were starting star wars.  Voted to give away all our stuff to clans we wanted to help including the large armies and equipment.


Fallen got carpet bombed right after you took bhuluban.

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(this doesnt happen anymore to people in this strat because devs dont care if you break the rules)

As a sidenote, the only reason fallen got carpet banned was because of this:

I'll openly admit it was solely to delay the attack for at least 24 hrs.  It's a shitty game mechanic, I didn't make it, but I will use it to my advantage.

As for the night-time thing, tough shit, we are primarily an EU clan and that's what night-time was put in place for.

As for your whole "everyone is ganging up on us" arguement, I'm flattered, because it's just been Fallen Brigade and HRE troops so far.  In fact, I've been loaning FCC troops, not the other way around.

So in conclusion, I don't care what you think of me. Fuck you.

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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #66 on: April 10, 2013, 07:24:58 pm »
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To be fair, atleast Loki admitted he abused bugs. Would rather instead of people getting punished for abusing bugs, it was encouraged to find bugs so they could then be fixed.
That would be expecting the developers to have a degree of competency though, which I guess is naive to think they would have.

Instead now it's just use as many bugs as you want aslong as you never admit to doing it outright, because for some reason that is different~.
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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #67 on: April 10, 2013, 07:45:36 pm »
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To be fair, atleast Loki admitted he abused bugs. Would rather instead of people getting punished for abusing bugs, it was encouraged to find bugs so they could then be fixed.
That would be expecting the developers to have a degree of competency though, which I guess is a naive to think they would have.

Instead now it's just use as many bugs as you want aslong as you never admit to doing it outright, because for some reason that is different~.

The thing is that you could just claim ignorance. Oh I didn't mean to attack my fief I just meant to enter it. But when you come out and say you did it on purpose and then insult the devs about it, you start to draw attention.

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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #68 on: April 10, 2013, 09:07:29 pm »
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best thing about that was that Fallen had warned the devs a month or two in advance that the bug existed and could be abused. Devs didnt do shit to fix it and didnt even make a rule against it until after Fallen used it. but yeah the main thing that killed FCC interest in strat 3 was boredom, bugs and dev apathy/bias.

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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #69 on: April 10, 2013, 09:20:16 pm »
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Me and you remember that war quite differently. After drz attacked that first trader and shit hit the fan, the mastermind leaders of the green alliance just folded. Idk if you can still do research on this, but almost all of the chaos battles were fought as ATTACKERS at EU PRIMETIME. I remember a saturday where canay had to lead like 5 battles attacking in mail vs plate, and all the battles were like .3:1.

I kept hearing things like, "oh drz is cool lets fight them like this cuz it's fair."

 Whoever thought that fighting the UIF, the known cheaters, carebears, and killers of EU strat both then and now, deserved to be fought "fairly" after they cheaply ganked the green machine, pretty much ruined the fun for everyone in NA.

Nobody folded. We were as I said already outmanned and out gunned. Even if LLJK didnt implode we still would have had less people. Also we were in the middle of a war with Hosp and had our armies completely out of place for a defense. We were caught off guard. They were pretty much the dominant force of EU for the majority of the time. They were fed from the very beginning. The only thing we could do is fight with what we had, which wasnt nearly as much as DRZ had.
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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #70 on: April 10, 2013, 11:46:04 pm »
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Nobody folded. We were as I said already outmanned and out gunned. Even if LLJK didnt implode we still would have had less people. Also we were in the middle of a war with Hosp and had our armies completely out of place for a defense. We were caught off guard. They were pretty much the dominant force of EU for the majority of the time. They were fed from the very beginning. The only thing we could do is fight with what we had, which wasnt nearly as much as DRZ had.

I remember in the DRZ invasion trying to suicide charge one of their armies in the field only to be stopped by the fact that my 100 man army couldn't attack a 1500 man army. It was a sad day for me.
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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #71 on: April 10, 2013, 11:56:48 pm »
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I remember in the DRZ invasion trying to suicide charge one of their armies in the field only to be stopped by the fact that my 100 man army couldn't attack a 1500 man army. It was a sad day for me.

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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #72 on: April 11, 2013, 02:43:16 pm »
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What I remember from strat 3

1) singing gimme the loot in ats vent as we did our bandit thing.
2) Dumping troops into rindyar in order to lower the gear quality the ai would buy. The plan was to eventually attack it with +3 plate armor and slaughter something like 10,000 peasants. Unfortunitly as we got close to the number we needed, item prices were lowered. On the pus side, all of those troops in rindyar led to end of the chaos/hosp alliance and started the last na war of strat 3.
3) making basically infinite xp from +3 mil plate battles.

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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #73 on: April 11, 2013, 03:28:48 pm »
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Yeah lol I was doing 2 days retires from 3-4 battles. What ended the party was the advancing respawn timer, the plate is mostly still around.

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Re: The war in NA current situation-Hospitaller
« Reply #74 on: April 11, 2013, 03:50:47 pm »
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Yeah lol I was doing 2 days retires from 3-4 battles. What ended the party was the advancing respawn timer, the plate is mostly still around.

Yeah, I agree to an extent. Plate is still rampant in strat, but not to the extent it was last strat. Most armies have some plate, but is usually tranny or heavy yawshawn and not enough to outfit the whole army. Back then it was mill plate from first spawn to the end of the battle.