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Would you be in favor of a free respec?

Yes
41 (41.4%)
No
36 (36.4%)
Only stats
15 (15.2%)
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Free stat and Loom Respec
« on: March 05, 2013, 06:30:43 pm »
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A slew of new items have been added, slots have been changed, old items nerfed and buffed. I don't think its out of the question to give everyone a free stat and loom respec.

Also, I know there is the marketplace, but it is going to be impossible to trade away some items for a fair price (like xbows, bows, one handers, etc)
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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2013, 06:45:57 pm »
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Also, could those against a free respec please give a reason as to why?

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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2013, 06:48:15 pm »
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Yes to respec, just cos of 1 person who loves the steel pick :D

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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2013, 06:48:30 pm »
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Also, could those against a free respec please give a reason as to why?
There is most likely gonna be stat adjustments and we'll have guys crying like archers did after the 13pd bug was fixed and they'd all respecd their mains.
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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2013, 06:51:39 pm »
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Also, could those against a free respec please give a reason as to why?

Free respec of looms = 90 % of the server using new gear. Fuck no, stick with your kuyaks  :P

Free respec of stats = spitting in the face whole generations of players royally fucked by old patches  :wink: Also, expensive respec = less lvl crutchers which is always good  :wink:
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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2013, 06:52:39 pm »
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There is most likely gonna be stat adjustments and we'll have guys crying like archers did after the 13pd bug was fixed and they'd all respecd their mains.

Well, they don't have to give them out today, they can wait until they have settled all the bugs.


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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2013, 06:53:33 pm »
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Against any respec for free. Reason is simple, if you do it once, people will want it everytime something gets changed, doesnt matter what.
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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2013, 06:55:20 pm »
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Free respec of looms = 90 % of the server using new gear. Fuck no, stick with your kuyaks  :P

Free respec of stats = spitting in the face whole generations of players royally fucked by old patches  :wink: Also, expensive respec = less lvl crutchers which is always good  :wink:

This. Plenty of people's builds have been fucked by patches in the past and they never got a mass free respec. Consistency is key here, they didn't get that option, so we shouldn't either. Also as far as the looms go, pretty much what Falka said, everyone will be running with the new items and whatever got buffed. We all need to learn to take the downs with the ups.
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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2013, 06:58:34 pm »
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Free respec of looms = 90 % of the server using new gear. Fuck no, stick with your kuyaks  :P

I don't know about you, but I don't really think its a negative thing that people will be able to play in the gear that they like.

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Free respec of stats = spitting in the face whole generations of players royally fucked by old patches  :wink: Also, expensive respec = less lvl crutchers which is always good  :wink:

When was the last time there was a patch of this size? The last one I can think of is the addition of the slot system, were everyone had free respecs. Plus at any level over 30, the most you can lose is one level. I don't think there is that big of a difference between 33 and 34, etc.

Just to clarify, the biggest reason to not have a respec is WELL I DIDNT GET ONE LAST TIME SO YOUR DONT EITHER.

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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2013, 07:10:07 pm »
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I don't know about you, but I don't really think its a negative thing that people will be able to play in the gear that they like.

I think it's bad to see everyone and his dog in the same gear.

When was the last time there was a patch of this size? The last one I can think of is the addition of the slot system, were everyone had free respecs.

Everyone had free respec? Really? I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong. Also, increasing riding requirements broke many builds, basically all cav had to respec.

Plus at any level over 30, the most you can lose is one level. I don't think there is that big of a difference between 33 and 34, etc.

If there's not a big difference why do you care about free respec in the first place?

Just to clarify, the biggest reason to not have a respec is WELL I DIDNT GET ONE LAST TIME SO YOUR DONT EITHER.

To make it clear, I've never needed to respec so your argument is invalid.

Oh, and this:
if you do it once, people will want it everytime something gets changed, doesnt matter what.
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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2013, 07:11:27 pm »
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Free respec of stats = spitting in the face whole generations of players royally fucked by old patches

Better to start late rather than never.

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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2013, 07:15:14 pm »
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Everyone had free respec? Really? I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong. Also, increasing riding requirements broke many builds, basically all cav had to respec.

Yeah, although to be fair, they cut everyones gens down as well.


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If there's not a big difference why do you care about free respec in the first place?

I still retire, despite being way over gen 16, and the build I have right now wasn't effected at all. So I don't need a respec either, but I am sure there are a lot of people that have had their builds royally fucked.

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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2013, 07:21:58 pm »
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No, because updates like this happened before without free respec. There is a button which says "Retire"

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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2013, 07:23:05 pm »
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Against any respec for free. Reason is simple, if you do it once, people will want it everytime something gets changed, doesnt matter what.

So where's the problem?

If you give people some facts to make their choice, and change those facts afterwards, the choice is invalid/obsolete, and a new choice has to be made.

Character development is based on choices. If you change something, you might have changed the validity of a character, and should grant a respec.

I see no problems in free respecs and loom resets after every patch.

No, because updates like this happened before without free respec. There is a button which says "Retire"

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Re: Free stat and Loom Respec
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2013, 07:24:14 pm »
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Respec for a fixed price of gold on the site instead of an auction would be nice, at least temporarily.