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Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« on: February 27, 2013, 01:19:23 pm »
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Locked_KD . Was on my right side when he shot at me,   i was going medium speed .

So um....... WHAT ???


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« Last Edit: February 27, 2013, 01:35:18 pm by Ujin »

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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 01:46:27 pm »
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Get a shield noob


Seriously though, the shields on backs blocking arrows, while it seemed as a decent idea at first, is fucking horrible, now we have horsecrossbowmen who just ride away from whatever they're shooting at surviving 4 throwing lances to the back due to shields making them invincible.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2013, 02:10:25 pm »
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Get a shield noob


Seriously though, the shields on backs blocking arrows, while it seemed as a decent idea at first, is fucking horrible, now we have horsecrossbowmen who just ride away from whatever they're shooting at surviving 4 throwing lances to the back due to shields making them invincible.
This isn't related to my question about the damage he did, but thanks for posting i guess.

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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 02:13:35 pm »
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light crossbow has 46 pierce damage+ little damage from bolts. I see nothing impossible.
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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 02:31:27 pm »
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i think bigger problem is ridiculous ability of pike/spear to stop horse with poke from almsot 90° angle. Or stoping horse without hit, you know that moment when your horse gets toped by hoplite who started hit 0.0000001 second befor you would have bumped him.
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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2013, 02:37:28 pm »
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light crossbow has 46 pierce damage+ little damage from bolts. I see nothing impossible.
which is ridiculous cause you can always sheathe that xbow and switch to 1h cav easily

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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2013, 02:40:11 pm »
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I'm assuming this was on EU 1.

Now that mounted ranged get the speed bonus from their own horse, they can do a lot of damage. I was chased by an HA and riding away from him, me riding slightly faster than him, and he killed me in 3 arrows. 52 body armour.
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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2013, 02:41:49 pm »
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i think bigger problem is ridiculous ability of pike/spear to stop horse with poke from almsot 90° angle. Or stoping horse without hit, you know that moment when your horse gets toped by hoplite who started hit 0.0000001 second befor you would have bumped him.

Horses jumping over pikes, shields sucking up the hit when you poke the horse in the face. I can go on... :wink:
« Last Edit: February 27, 2013, 06:07:31 pm by Gurnisson »
I voted Gurnisson cause of his fucking bendy pike, I swear noone can roflcopter stab like he can.

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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2013, 03:00:15 pm »
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Ok, when both shooter and victim where next to each other I suppose there was no speed bonus. Further assuming a body hit with a x1 multiplier. I think masterwork light xbow and steel bolts have a combined damage of (44+8 + 6+2 =) 60p.

So it's 60p versus 65 body armor. That should give a minimum damage of 8, an average damage of 19 and a maximum damage of 32. With your 60(?) hp a high damage roll will take half of the bar. On the other hand if you get lucky it can also be a grazing hit. Blame TW armor randomisation. (assuming cmp didn't change it)

In short, you got unlucky and got a bad armor dice roll.

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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2013, 04:40:15 pm »
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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2013, 04:43:51 pm »
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This isn't related to my question about the damage he did, but thanks for posting i guess.
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1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2013, 06:16:26 pm »
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Try coming to NA once in a while, then you can complain about mounted crossbowmen.

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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2013, 06:38:51 pm »
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To back up on what Oohil said... There was 6 on the enemy team alone last night. Not including our own 3. More often than not it comes to one of them being the last ones alive because they have shot all the opposing cavalry down and bump shot all the archers and crossbows.

I give props to a few of them though, they are damn good at what they do, much to my dismay  :(

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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2013, 06:44:09 pm »
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To back up on what Oohil said... There was 6 on the enemy team alone last night. Not including our own 3. More often than not it comes to one of them Rohypnol being the last ones alive because they have shot all the opposing cavalry down and bump shot all the archers and crossbows.

I give props to a few of them though, they are damn good at what they do, much to my dismay  :(

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Re: Horse Xbowmen just shot me for half my hp
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2013, 06:49:11 pm »
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Yeah, I usually just quit or go to siege when more than 4 or so HX get on one team. It's simply not fun. Although the arrow weight change for archers wasn't well-received by many, at least it put a stop to endlessly kiting archers, for the most part. An HX (even worse when it's a dedicated HX with no sidearm, and +3 horse, xbow, and bolts) is more than able to deal rather high amounts of damage without being in much danger of receiving any.

Of course skilled and coordinated ranged would put a stop to this, but most battle-monkeys refuse to focus cavalry at all, much less HX/HA.

HX doesn't really seem to be an issue until the crossbowmen is astride an arabian, god forbid a +3 arabian.

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