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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2013, 02:59:32 pm »
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You are all blind lobbyists beyond hope. Picked a class in 2010 to lobby for it forever. Not being able to play another class open-minded after that. Sorry, but that's my impression. So all that "feedback" is worthless (to me at least).

The more balanced the complaints are, the better balance is. That is, when we will reach a state where all lobbyists of all classes feel equally underpowered, then its probable that a good balance has been found. We are not very far away from it and that didnt changed much over the last year.


In any case, strong or not there aren't enough shielders around, and the things that were fixed in the last update were partly responsible. The other part being the terrible stats of 1h weapons compared to the advantage of having a shield in melee, which I think is not in the shielders advantage, even now.

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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2013, 03:00:59 pm »
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Buff Scimitar.

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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2013, 03:01:05 pm »
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The other part being the terrible stats of 1h weapons compared to the advantage of having a shield in melee

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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2013, 03:06:06 pm »
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also the poleaxe has shieldbreak, cut, blunt, instastab pierce and knockdown.

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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2013, 03:15:57 pm »
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also the poleaxe has shieldbreak, cut, blunt, instastab pierce and knockdown.

3x times the price, so you are saying the HBS should have the same effectiveness as the poleaxe? Thats just retarded, compare similar things please
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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2013, 03:19:14 pm »
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HBS is just 200 gold more expensive than my Dadao and so much better. If not for Great sword, HBS could be the most OP 2H weapon atm.

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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2013, 03:21:08 pm »
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3x times the price, so you are saying the HBS should have the same effectiveness as the poleaxe? Thats just retarded, compare similar things please

I'm not comparing the two. I tried to find some 1h weapon even half as OP as any of these, but I couldn't.

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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2013, 03:24:41 pm »
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I'm not comparing the two. I tried to find some 1h weapon even half as OP as any of these, but I couldn't.

Italian Sword, Steel Pick, Military Hammer, Elite Scimitar. There you go
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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2013, 03:36:41 pm »
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Italian Sword, Steel Pick, Military Hammer, Elite Scimitar. There you go

Warhammer, Arabian cav sowrd (off horseback)
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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2013, 03:57:42 pm »
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I can't say any class is OP right now...
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As for non-stabbing 2h weapons, I like it. I had a two or three gens with my agi 2hander with Miaodao, and it was real fun. Miaodao is a perfect spamming weapon (spamming is what I did a lot  :) ). It combines a great cut damage with recently buffed speed and nice range.
PS: 2h stab is gay and ugly.
PPS: but then I went back to shielder, because 2h is nearly useless against archers, and as shieder I can deal with any class (some easier and some harder), but no one can kill a shielder easily (like archers kill slow 2hers or like 2hers kill pikemen). This universality is what I like.

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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2013, 05:40:20 pm »
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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2013, 05:44:34 pm »
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nobody cares about you paul you suck at the game

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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #72 on: January 15, 2013, 05:49:59 pm »
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3x times the price, so you are saying the HBS should have the same effectiveness as the poleaxe? Thats just retarded, compare similar things please

Aside from "peasant gear", balancing items by price is a bad idea imho - in game economies always inflate out of control.

Items should primarily be balanced by factors like length, weight, speed, damage, special effects, etc.
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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2013, 05:50:09 pm »
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nobody cares about you paul you suck at the game and you have been  biased towards archery yourself so hypocrit much, leshma just seems to be living in the past it seems, also as far as i know no nodachis in new game haha. leshma i use heavy greatsword on my main. and  yet again i play 1handed with shield most nowerdays. just saying its gotten piss eazy.
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I agree with you at point then 1h is not UP, some 1h weapons are stupidly powerfull in some situations but it is same with any class, all depend on player and sytuation
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Re: did one handed turn speed get adjusted??
« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2013, 06:00:31 pm »
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Italian Sword, Steel Pick, Military Hammer, Elite Scimitar. There you go

weak, short as hell, slow, weak again ?

Warhammer, Arabian cav sowrd (off horseback)

short, slooooooooooooooooow. Also the ACS will bounce off anything not exactly in front of the user.


I not saying those are very bad, but no 1h weapon is stupidly powerful compared to almost all other melee weapons, the HBS and poleaxe are. The 2h and pole categories always had less internal balance than 1h. As a result, even if the weapon classes were relatively ok balanced as a whole, the best 2h and pole always were far superior to the best 1h.