Cavalry Nerf.... WHY

[Magikarp]

So, the hotfix brought back lance turning, thank god! But We are still not back to where we were: balanced.

So bring back the old damage and speed of lances, my double heirloomed lance only does 28 pierce damage, ridiculously low.
The speed of lances, why did that need a nerf anyway? To buff light lance as being the best lance? That's retarded.

Ultimately, this patch failed to fix heirloomed Sarranid(Now: Arabian) Horses. When loomed they are too fast and manouverable, the ultimately killing machine. They must no longer dominate the cavalry class no more, I say nerf manouverability on them.

[Kafein]

So, the hotfix brought back lance turning, thank god! But We are still not back to where we were: balanced.

So bring back the old damage and speed of lances, my double heirloomed lance only does 28 pierce damage, ridiculously low.
The speed of lances, why did that need a nerf anyway? To buff light lance as being the best lance? That's retarded.

Ultimately, this patch failed to fix heirloomed Sarranid(Now: Arabian) Horses. When loomed they are too fast and manouverable, the ultimately killing machine. They must no longer dominate the cavalry class no more, I say nerf manouverability on them.

This.

[Huey Newton]

This.

agreed
light lance shouldn't be the beat
heavy lance has literally no use in cav on cav situations

[Tears of Destiny]

agreed
light lance shouldn't be the beat
heavy lance has literally no use in cav on cav situations

Last I checked... The heavy lance was used almost exclusively due to the better reach, and the light lance was the less popular of the two... 
Or maybe my alts are doing it wrong :/ I dunno but that extra 15 reach has saved me on several occasions for striking first...

[Huey Newton]

Last I checked... The heavy lance was used almost exclusively due to the better reach, and the light lance was the less popular of the two... 
Or maybe my alts are doing it wrong :/ I dunno but that extra 15 reach has saved me on several occasions for striking first...

have you seen what the patch has done to lances
the heavy is as slow as the long pike...

A good combination of speed and range are the makings of a good lance
good range with no speed is disaster

fail patch is fail

[Magikarp]

Last I checked... The heavy lance was used almost exclusively due to the better reach, and the light lance was the less popular of the two... 
Or maybe my alts are doing it wrong :/ I dunno but that extra 15 reach has saved me on several occasions for striking first...

Some used Light Lance for damage, which is understandable, since we don't deal that much these days. With this patch, we do even less damage. Fuck range when the other weapon has more speed and damage. That's why light lance is now better.

Maybe the person making tweaks to the cavalry class should actually play the class??

[Tears of Destiny]

Some used Light Lance for damage, which is understandable, since we don't deal that much these days. With this patch, we do even less damage. Fuck range when the other weapon has more speed and damage. That's why light lance is now better.

Maybe the person making tweaks to the cavalry class should actually play the class??

Hmm, I guess for my playstyle I don't mind as much, as my cav lancing involves a predictable target (another icnoming cav) and I have little difficulty setting up a lance. In melee I need quick reaction speeds to counterattack after I block, but on a horse, I can just easily tweak my speed and time my thrust to hit when I want considering there is no "counterattack" at high speeds, just one thrust at the proper time. Then again, with the slower armored horses this may be more difficult, but at least for the fast light lancers I don't see a problem (though now when I am dehorsed I am pretty much screwed more then ever with the slower speed)..

[Magikarp]

2 slot items already nerfed us enough, with the exception of the most needed Arabian(Sarranid) Horse nerf.
We aren't able to take shields anymore+ a sidearm, so we must choose. On top of that our best shields now require 4 shield skill. Which I don't really get, our build now becomes worse by either 1 if, 1 athletics or 1 weapon master.

[Keshian]

The heavy lance thing kind of makes sense though youa re using a polearm as long as a pike with 1 hand you should be incredibly slow and not be able to stab like crazy with it.  Also, with lollancing attack back this class needs something to balance the fact that most people can't have pikes because they are autoamtically dropped and take 2-3 slots so cav already did better than most classes would completely dominate if some nerf didnt come in.  Its not that youw ere OP pre-patch, but that you would be post-patch with all the other classes but cav getting a nerf.

[Rumblood]

Nerfed? I just saw Gaga wearing full plate, with a lance, a shield, and a long axe. What happened to slot nerf? Logged on to my archer and can no longer use the 2 handers due to slot restrictions unless Im content with 15 arrows (another nerf).

You can handle your horse nerf, Im certain of it. You aren't the only class effected.

[Spa_geh_tea]

Wohooo spears on horses are now more useful, as they should be!

[Native_ATS]

The heavy lance thing kind of makes sense though youa re using a polearm as long as a pike with 1 hand you should be incredibly slow and not be able to stab like crazy with it.  Also, with lollancing attack back this class needs something to balance the fact that most people can't have pikes because they are autoamtically dropped and take 2-3 slots so cav already did better than most classes would completely dominate if some nerf didnt come in.  Its not that youw ere OP pre-patch, but that you would be post-patch with all the other classes but cav getting a nerf.

lol soooo true, nerf the fuck out of cav i say, Cav is already easy mode, might as well nerf it till its nomal or takes some skill to use

[Huey Newton]

lol soooo true, nerf the fuck out of cav i say, Cav is already easy mode, might as well nerf it till its nomal or takes some skill to use

yeah cav takes no skill

cav are noobs anyways...

throwing is what the pros do.. 

[Magikarp]

Ah the trolls already came in.

No, cav is also hurt by the slot update, we can't take 2 polearms anymore, which means we need to choose between a shield or a sidearm. When we switch to our sidearm(if we have one) we drop our lance too.

And as always: realism has nothing to do with balance! The friggin slow heavy lance is useless atm, making us fall back to lance's that shouldn't be a better option. Heavy lance should be the best lance, revert back now.

[Chagan_Arslan]

The heavy lance thing kind of makes sense though youa re using a polearm as long as a pike with 1 hand you should be incredibly slow and not be able to stab like crazy with it.

heavy lance 190 pike 245, they are not same lenght