Cavalry Nerf.... WHY

[polkafranzi]

No

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJyzjSYOWns

even better - some comedy...

cheer up

[Gorath]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DwT_2QQU64

Sorry, I'm of legal age and don't understand downspeak.

[Rumblood]

If the cav nerf stayed then those cavs would be in bottom of each team - how's that fair in contrast?

Well done for hot-fixing cav...now give me back my heavy lance -_-

Hello? That is RIGHT NOW, with this so called Nerf. Arabian still outruns arrows 

[Tears of Destiny]

Hello? That is RIGHT NOW, with this so called Nerf. Arabian still outruns arrows 

Not an heirloomed warbow!  It can now catch up with even Champian Coursers...

[Magikarp]

Outrun arrows, lol, do you want us to stand still so you can shoot us?
Learn to guide your arrows ahead of the horseman.

[Chagan_Arslan]

Not to mention that the top 2 spots on both teams are cavalry with over 20 kills, while the next up is melee with 10...

depends on maps and the number of unaware players, how often you see cav topping port assault, nord town, village etc while every other class is doing fine on all maps, cav can do it only on some, and the number of those maps is low... now you dont see cav players bitching about the fact they have to dismount and play the infantry game no, you only see those crybabies that when some map with a bit of flat terrain comes starts to whine about how its the cav paradise when in fact battle maps should all be open field-like and if you want building you got server siege, and guess what you wont see any cav over there

[Native_ATS]

THe speed isnt the real problem here, it's the damage, the scaling is horrible atm, my double loomed heavy lance does 28 pierce now, on masterwork it does 30. Seriously?

Let's see how we got nerfed:
- Much lower damage
- Speed nerfed by a huge amount
- Useless on foot to use
- Shields require more shield skill, making us fall back to worse ones
- No more polearm sidearms with shield due to slot problem
- No more switching to sidearm without dropping our main weapon
- Long pike added a bigger counter
- Heirloom scaling very poor

And what did we get in return:
+ We kept the stats and scaling of the Sarranid (Arabian) Horse, the ultimate killing machine.

Woohoo! The devs nerfed the wrong item and still can't see the OPness of heirloomed Sarranid(Arabian) horses!

lol fail
cav players get speed damg+
so a nock down in damg is nothing, lances need to be nerffed, to 1 shot people while you pony jogs is BS, at lest now u cant just 1 shot every thing,
it is not useless on foot... you are, if u cant kill with a 190 reach weapon you fail hard...
you dont have to fall back to a shitty sheild... just spend 1 more point and boom you got your good sheild back...
so you cant take you sheild, super long lance and some pol-arm into battle... maybe try being just cav witha lances... or try fighting with your pol-arm off pony back lol
pike people drop there weapons when they switch, Throwers drop there lances when they use or pick up any other weapon but unlike your class throwers cant pick them up again.... so cry somewhere ells
Crying about a 280 pike that takes up 1/2 of there slots... also you can see that dam thing form space
All class got hit, cav didnt get hit hard at all, bowmen have less ammo now,Throwing have way less ammo and deal less damg. Xbows do more damg now(they were buffed why?)

[Ujin]

depends on maps and the number of unaware players, how often you see cav topping port assault, nord town, village etc while every other class is doing fine on all maps, cav can do it only on some, and the number of those maps is low... now you dont see cav players bitching about the fact they have to dismount and play the infantry game no, you only see those crybabies that when some map with a bit of flat terrain comes starts to whine about how its the cav paradise when in fact battle maps should all be open field-like and if you want building you got server siege, and guess what you wont see any cav over there

This should be put on every cav whiner's homepage or as the welcoming message when they log on.

On top of that i'll add that cav DID get hit in the patch and what people always seem to forget, cav has to pay at least double the upkeep than an average infantry player. Stop the bitching already.

[Hunter_the_Honourable]

lol fail
cav players get speed damg+
so a nock down in damg is nothing, lances need to be nerffed, to 1 shot people while you pony jogs is BS, at lest now u cant just 1 shot every thing,
it is not useless on foot... you are, if u cant kill with a 190 reach weapon you fail hard...
you dont have to fall back to a shitty sheild... just spend 1 more point and boom you got your good sheild back...
so you cant take you sheild, super long lance and some pol-arm into battle... maybe try being just cav witha lances... or try fighting with your pol-arm off pony back lol
pike people drop there weapons when they switch, Throwers drop there lances when they use or pick up any other weapon but unlike your class throwers cant pick them up again.... so cry somewhere ells
Crying about a 280 pike that takes up 1/2 of there slots... also you can see that dam thing form space
All class got hit, cav didnt get hit hard at all, bowmen have less ammo now,Throwing have way less ammo and deal less damg. Xbows do more damg now(they were buffed why?)

From this I can tell your one of the people who don't look around for cav then cry's about how we're OP when actually most cav have 4-6 PS and with speed (from the horse) it makes sense that we one hit you due to momentum. Also you say archers and throwers got nerfed the hardest because they can't have as much ammo this is a good thing because before the patch I used to see atleast 7 archers with no melee weapon and with 90 arrows which is  pure BS, throwers I admit can be useful and mid range but again if you have to much ammo then its just stupid.   

[naduril]

On top of that i'll add that cav DID get hit in the patch and what people always seem to forget, cav has to pay at least double the upkeep than an average infantry player. Stop the bitching already.

+1 to Ujin.

[Vibe]

Yeah, the cav nerf is indeed unnecessary. We pay high amounts of upkeep already, we're no challenge to a player who pays attention and our non-plate horses get 1/2 shotted by thrown/xbows.
Also, we can't do crap on village maps where we get roofcamped to death. I usually just go on foot on those maps because the upkeep is just not worth it.

[Magikarp]

I'm fed up with the anti-cav whiners who swarm this thread because they just got backstabbed in the head while they were running around like an idiot. They all say cav is easymode because they see one cav player topping the boards. Yet when you duel them on horseback they get owned like hell. Cav did get hit, we always got hit, yet people seem to forget. Why? Because they don't play the class.

So please, all the lobyists go to your own thread, this thread is about the (unnecessary) cav nerf. In which the only reply of the devs was:
'Everyone was using the Heavy Lance, omfg nerf!'

[Brutal]

Considering that pike and bamboo are not sheateable, some kind of nerf was necessary to compensate, no ?
Almost  all 1H and polearm user can only block cav attack now.
Yes cav has high upkeep but it is the only class that get an unblockable one hit melee attack, and no it's not easy to avoid couching when you've 4 athletics or less.
Why is couching unblockable anyway ?     

[polkafranzi]

Considering that pike and bamboo are not sheateable, some kind of nerf was necessary to compensate, no ?
Almost  all 1H and polearm user can only block cav attack now.
Yes cav has high upkeep but it is the only class that get an unblockable one hit melee attack, and no it's not easy to avoid couching when you've 4 athletics or less.
Why is couching unblockable anyway ?   

either use some common sense, or at least YT or research how devastating a couched lance was before coming on here with these derp comments.

[KaMiKaZe_JoE]

If it makes you feel better, it isn't easy to actually hit someone with a couched lance. Like, I rarely use it, except for the occasional epic, head on, horse on horse charges.

Somebody said that the lance was an effective weapon on foot. That person is false. The reach really doesn't matter when the actual attack is epicly slow. You can only attack from two directions, btw. Oh, and if they're too close, the extra length screws you over and your strike bounces.

A person with a lance, if attacked by somebody with a real infantry weapon, will probably die in a one on one fight. Don't talk about fighting with a team, because I almost never manage to get back to my team after being dehorsed.