Why I ragespecced to an archer.

[Miley]

What does being an archer have to do with liking men?

[Penitent]

The only problem with pikers is when they jump away from you, do a 360, and stab you in the head.  They nerfed spin-stabbing, but pikes are still able to do this.  It happens to me all the time.  It's the only thing they do when you get close to them.

The reason it actually works is because they are way too close to stab you, so you don't block as carefully...and they turn around (back to you) so why would you block?  Then BAM--spinaround headshot.  Frankly, its absurd.

Everything else is fine though.

[Arrowblood]

Just before the epic archer nerf? What a shame.

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[Rumblood]

Come on, Archers SUCK badly in 1v1 situations their strength lies in numbers if they are with their team they will obviously kill you because you can't block them and everyone else but if you meet a lone archer and lose then you are quite simply doing something wrong end of discussion.

For God sake get a shield if they're bothering you that much.

[Ujin]

I think long spears and pikes deserve a rather noticeable damage nerf, fair and square .

[Idzo]

I can sign what Teeth wrote.
Sometimes is rly big dmg, if you land it very good (hold attack,  aboose it from left to right in face)
Most of time it suck because you neeed to move from left to right go get it well and animation hits enemy on his hand which deal lower dmg than it should.

I still suck hard at stabbing from right side... dunno why.. 

If Teeth or Gurni wants to give me lessons it would be nice!

Btw. Happy new year guys, cheers!

[Strudog]

rarely do i beat some one in 1v1 with my longspear because it is extremely difficult to do as people tend to facehug me,  i actually prefer to fight 2-3 people than 1v1 as most people might find, the only time i find that the longspear is effective is when it is used in a GROUP, but that is the whole point of the longspear. Removing the block would remove the last ounce of fun with this game has.

People tend to complain about the longspear because they believe it is easy to use, believe me it is not, there is so much more concentration that goes into fighting than any other class.

You will tend to find there are about 5 good longspear users, but no one complains about the 100 good archers or the 100 good 2h's etc.

[Prpavi]

For God sake get a shield if they're bothering you that much.

Guess get a shield solution never gets old in this mod... 

[Wiltzu]

1st for Teeth.
IMO if you have spear, you should always carry a side weapon if you want to block. IMO long spears/pikes shouldn't be able to block. They're a support weapon.


And now. It seems that there're a lot of people replying to my post without actually having read it (I hope they haven't read it fully, otherwise they have some serious issues).
pingpong aka JEWBANKER and Hunter_The_Honourable, where did I say that I have problems defeating long spears/pikes? "They're not impossible to defeat, sometimes not even hard." I can't see that I said they're hard to defeat. You two missed why I hate long spears/pikes, go and read again my post, actually just the underlined part, shouldn't be hard.
Hunter_The_Honourable, I assume you're NA. Come to EU1 when Gurnisson/teeth/chase(if he's long spear) are on, they'll show you what a skilled long spear/pike user can do.
Jew, for once stop leeching and try to actually survive and fight. Maybe then I'll take your sayings a little more seriously.

[Osiris]

hunter is a nord i think Longspears are easy to use hell i can beat some people 1 vs 1 with a longspear or pike and they are great for team play The problem with archery is that lancer cav cant do jack against them With my mw heavy lance and 5ps to the head they dont die and them im screwed because of terrible lance angle and an archers ability to 2-3 shot my destrier ^^ 1h cav can deal with archers pretty well but they prefer not to 

[Angellore]

Maybe blocking with such a long weapons has no sense, but I think it should stay from gameplay point of view.
Long time ago (half a year ago?) I wrote that for me Pikes/Long Spears has too high damage against humans and too low damage against horses. And I still thinks same, it should be more like half current damage to human targets, but twice current damage to horses. Then those weapons would be great support weapons and that's all - so like it should be in my opinion. It's pretty ridiculous right now to get single hit for 60-70% of my hp by such a long weapon. Currently it's not support weapon at all with such high damage. And this should be pretty simple - if you are going 1 vs 1 as pikeman, change weapon to something else (staff, 1h sword, 2h mace or sth). If you are in group, play support role to mainly stun enemy from distance, not to kill him instantly with your 3 meters long weapon.

[Jarold]

LOL I went polearm for a gen and its so easy using a stabby weapon, like the long awlpike or long spear. The jump spin stab thing is wicked sick, NERF it though.

[Rebelyell]

If pike is easy try out ashwood pike with shield, thats even better combo,
all that I rage about pikes is back jump stab that is really strong technique

 I can call pikers homosexual guy with penis size problem but stab in M&B is just fucked up because of rotation and hit detection (stab with shaft when end of the weapon is 2m behind target) and way to defend forom stabs is just..... I think then chamber is more proper way to defend from stab but that need a lot of balance and proper form that I cant find my slef.

[Felix]

Lol this thread is ridiculous.
Downblocking is so hard. People bitching about 1D weapon (as part of crpg whining culture i guess)
Wiltzu, srsly... i thought u were better than that.
I am dedicated pikeman, and i can say that pike (not long spear) is one of the most difficult weapon to play with in crpg. I almost ragespecced into other class several times. It's a weapon that depends solely on enemy awareness. If he's aware of pike, you can't do shit. You don't even have point-blank thrust (longspear) cause it's too long. Inexperienced user will mostly glance even with mw pike and high PS. Who the fuck says that piking is easy? I haven't seen ANY good pikeman on EU aside Backlash, others are just occasional noobs like me. Right, lot of strong long spear users, but not pikers.

For god's sake, guy became an archer cause he coudn't deal with pikers/longspear users. Who gives a fuck?

PS It has been said lot of times - if you want to make pikes/long spears more realistic so badly, then give us multidirectional thrust (not just 1 attack), ability to apply constant pressure by pressing the pointy end, formations and change every other class as well for balance reason... Oh, wait... u can't, cause this is a game after all with engine limitations. Too bad. Deal with it.

[Prpavi]

Lol this thread is ridiculous.
Downblocking is so hard. People bitching about 1D weapon (as part of crpg whining culture i guess)
Wiltzu, srsly... i thought u were better than that.
I am dedicated pikeman, and i can say that pike (not long spear) is one of the most difficult weapon to play with in crpg. I almost ragespecced into other class several times. It's a weapon that depends solely on enemy awareness. If he's aware of pike, you can't do shit. You don't even have point-blank thrust (longspear) cause it's too long. Inexperienced user will mostly glance even with mw pike and high PS. Who the fuck says that piking is easy? I haven't seen ANY good pikeman on EU aside Backlash, others are just occasional noobs like me. Right, lot of strong long spear users, but not pikers.

For god's sake, guy became an archer cause he coudn't deal with pikers/longspear users. Who gives a fuck?

Long spear used to be called a pike mmkay newmy old friend!! 

rest of this post is buff my class and weapon rant... not worth a read.