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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2012, 04:46:28 pm »
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Just before the epic archer nerf? What a shame.

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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2012, 04:48:15 pm »
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chadz is the forum hero, he probably gave it to himself. normal players have cRPG player (it might be because he almost never plays)

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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2012, 04:48:30 pm »
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Just before the epic 2h nerf? What a shame.

Here you go chadz,I fixed it for you.
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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2012, 05:24:55 pm »
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yeah kind of doesn't make sense that a person in mail carrying a metal sword can out run someone in cloth.
But then again, it's even more fun when someone chases you. Then you drop your bow, out run them and pick up another bow and shoot them or even run around a few buildings, pick up your own bow then shoot them.

Also NERF 2H. I'll be an archer till 2h is nerfed (or HA is buffed), until then I shall focus on 2hs to make 'em respec.

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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2012, 05:25:37 pm »
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Here you go chadz,I fixed it for you.
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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2012, 05:34:37 pm »
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you.... boring

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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2012, 05:36:55 pm »
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Find a way to decrease the amount of long spear/pike users (mainly the ones who use them to infantry) or make them more realistic and I assure you, I'll go back to melee. (It's always one my old friendcher less).

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I hope your just trollin' or your just about as dumb as that pawlo the polak, IMO if you lose 1vs1 to a 68 speed one attack direction weapon you should most def uninstall this game.
Blockin with pike is not impossibru , but its damn near. Lolspear is a bit better but every1 and their mother knows how to fight one, i mean srsly if you think theres like 6 counters to pikemen, HA, HX , Archers, Xbow, Throwers, 1h shielders.

So in a nutshell: IT ISNT OP YOU JUST SUCK

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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2012, 05:56:22 pm »
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I don't think the long spear or pike are overpowered, not even a bit. And there is no overpopulation of these weapons either. But the remove of block from these weapons is long overdue. Not to nerf them, but because it doesn't make sense to be able to block with weapons like that and because they don't need block.
Let's be honest, the pike and especially the long spear can be quite effective in large groups. Removing block from them wouldn't change that, they would still be just as effective as they were before, the players just have to pay more attention to footwork and they have to bring sideweapons if they want to survive without team support. (Which most pike/long spear users do anyway) 
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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2012, 06:09:09 pm »
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I don't think the long spear or pike are overpowered, not even a bit. And there is no overpopulation of these weapons either. But the remove of block from these weapons is long overdue. Not to nerf them, but because it doesn't make sense to be able to block with weapons like that and because they don't need block.
Let's be honest, the pike and especially the long spear can be quite effective in large groups. Removing block from them wouldn't change that, they would still be just as effective as they were before, the players just have to pay more attention to footwork and they have to bring sideweapons if they want to survive without team support. (Which most pike/long spear users do anyway)
This is not at all how it works. I am a longspear user and I have a very good eye for my team and mostly stick in the huge blob of my team. All it takes though is one shielder, of which we have a lot these days, and you have to block. They just walk up to you and leftswing at your face, this happens all the time because shielders hate my guts and because they happen to have a shield. You backwalk, stab at them until your teammates decide to help you out. Not being able to block would mean that you have to drop the longspear, get hit once while switching weapons, and then you have to go find your longspear on the floor again, only for this process to repeat. If this happens 3 times, you're dead, because they get a free hit everytime, even when you are actually fast enough with dropping the longspear.

You don't have to be a genius to figure out that this will obliterate these weapons.

Where? Give me some of that!
As a 7 ps, 167 wpf, MW longspear user I can assure you that my damage output is ridiculously high sometimes. I say sometimes, cause at other times it is ridiculously low. Speedbonus has too much of an effect on the weapon. I occasionally oneshot shielders in medium armour, I do stab at faces and hold a lot though. I also occasionally need 4 stabs to kill a peasant in cloth armor.


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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2012, 06:15:38 pm »
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As a 7 ps, 167 wpf, MW longspear user I can assure you that my damage output is ridiculously high sometimes. I say sometimes, cause at other times it is ridiculously low. Speedbonus has too much of an effect on the weapon. I occasionally oneshot shielders in medium armour, I do stab at faces and hold a lot though. I also occasionally need 4 stabs to kill a peasant in cloth armor.

That's the beauty of it. Time the footwork right and you can one-shot with a well-placed stab and feel the tears. If you're bad at using a pike, you will probably just glance around.

Watcvhing someone loot my MW pike on the ground and only bounce, miss, team-attack or stab the ground is some of the most fun I have. :lol:
I voted Gurnisson cause of his fucking bendy pike, I swear noone can roflcopter stab like he can.

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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2012, 06:42:22 pm »
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I don't think the long spear or pike are overpowered, not even a bit. And there is no overpopulation of these weapons either. But the remove of block from these weapons is long overdue. Not to nerf them, but because it doesn't make sense to be able to block with weapons like that and because they don't need block.
Let's be honest, the pike and especially the long spear can be quite effective in large groups. Removing block from them wouldn't change that, they would still be just as effective as they were before, the players just have to pay more attention to footwork and they have to bring sideweapons if they want to survive without team support. (Which most pike/long spear users do anyway)

The way I figure it, if these can block, there is no reason that daggers can't block. There are those called parrying daggers for a reason.
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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2012, 06:46:12 pm »
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Even Blackbow left EU1 the other day due to too much ranged  :wink:

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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2012, 07:50:56 pm »
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You ragespecced to ranged from melee because of PIKERS?!

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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2012, 07:52:29 pm »
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I really cant blame op.

WHY O DONKEY WHY, did they ever revert that patch which removed block from pikes and interupted riders when bumping. game would be so much better, the 2 things remove alot of cheap kills in the game and balance each other out.

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Re: Why I ragespecced to an archer.
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2012, 08:13:29 pm »
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Come on, Pikers SUCK badly in 1v1 situations their strength lies in numbers if they are with their team they will obviously kill you because you can't block them and everyone else but if you meet a lone piker and lose then you are quite simply doing something wrong end of discussion. Taking away their block doesn't make much sense ok yeah they can stab you for good damage when you are right in their face (which is retarded) but overall all they do is stab and with a weapon as long and slow as that if you keep failing to block it then you should either stop playing or go play DTV.

The fact you respeced because of pikers is shocking. They are a support class, they're good against cav and inf when in a group but alone they suffer badly. and they are exposed to ranged so its not like they have a 12ft long spear and a shield to block arrows. Nerfing a support class is just wrong imo, they need their team-mates inorder to stay alive, even really good melee players probably struggle to win 1 on 1 fights when using a pike or longspear.

For God sake get a shield if they're bothering you that much.
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