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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2730 on: June 27, 2016, 04:28:20 pm »
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Yeah but that was done to undermine Tommen's rule as king to pave the way for the rightful king and ruler of Westeros a.ka Aegon a.ka Young Griff a.ka the awesome character D&D removed from the show because Dany needed more boring dialogue scenes.

Going by show logic, it wouldn't really make a lot of sense for Varys to go and crossbow Kevan and Pycelle now at this time. Maybe Qyburn because he stole Varys little birds but not Pycelle/Kevan. Pycelle and Kevan had more problems with Cersei than anyone else.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2731 on: June 27, 2016, 04:35:33 pm »
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Holy shit. The whole opening sequence was so well done. Great episode! I love the direction Cersei is heading...

The teleports are unreal tho. Littlefinger, now Varys (he literally went to Dorne to say "Fire and Blood" and went back do Meereen to sail back to Westeros, wtf) and Arya. I just can't accept that Arya did all the Frey pies work and infiltrated the Twins so easily... imo it failed to be a feel good moment
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2732 on: June 27, 2016, 07:21:52 pm »
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And this is why i hate watching series. Now i have to wait till next year argh :cry:

That Arya scene, btw, she re-enacted that one horror story that was told at some point.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2733 on: June 27, 2016, 07:37:54 pm »
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Frey pie in the book is Lord Manderly serving it to all the lords during the siege of Winterfell. They recycled it to give Arya a bit more to do I guess.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2734 on: June 27, 2016, 08:18:54 pm »
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Why did that Maester use six little girls to do the stabbing for him?

Why was the little boy staring at the churchplace and then took off running right to the wildfire? Why did religionguy follow him there? How the fuck did the little boy manage to stab him that badly? Better assassin than the Faceless Men, apparently.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2735 on: June 27, 2016, 08:33:23 pm »
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Why did that Maester use six little girls to do the stabbing for him?

Why was the little boy staring at the churchplace and then took off running right to the wildfire? Why did religionguy follow him there? How the fuck did the little boy manage to stab him that badly? Better assassin than the Faceless Men, apparently.

I was wondering that about Lancel (think that's right). They needed like 10 kids to take down an old man but only one to take down him wtf?

I'm assuming now Bran is pretty much south of the wall he's going to Winterfell to tell Jon his heritage. I'm also hoping that Sansa will turn around and do away with Littlefinger. Although I've had enough of the whole girl power bullshit that would be justified.

And lol at the Mormont girl turning all those manly Northern men for Jon.

Seem some ridiculous comments on social media about how they didn't make it obvious enough who Jon's father was. Seriously she whispers to Ned don't let Robert know or he'll kill him. Do you really need it spelled out for you?

And Cersei is going to have almost as short a reign as her children.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2736 on: June 27, 2016, 08:49:31 pm »
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Why was the little boy staring at the churchplace and then took off running right to the wildfire? Why did religionguy follow him there? How the fuck did the little boy manage to stab him that badly? Better assassin than the Faceless Men, apparently.
Yeah, this irked me to no end. Nothing in this entire sequence made any sense. I can never quite understand how no one in such a production manages to ask "but... why?".

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2737 on: June 27, 2016, 08:51:39 pm »
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They need the guy who directed these 2 episodes to do the final 2 series. He's done a really good job of getting the epic feeling across. Which is something it's missed for a few seasons. Considering everything is now kicking off they need to keep it up.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2738 on: June 27, 2016, 10:05:49 pm »
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I have a feeling season 7 will just be a filler for season 8 which will probably be the last season featuring the White Walker war
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2739 on: June 27, 2016, 10:25:59 pm »
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Well Season 7 should be Danaerys taking Westeros and Jon consolidating his family with a bit of Littlefinger intrigue thrown in.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2740 on: June 27, 2016, 10:26:31 pm »
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They replaced the Varys/Kevan murder scene with Qyburn/Pycelle, which kinda robbed it of it's oomph. Pycelle actually backhanded one of the little murderous munchkins, kind of expected him to go down without any fight, just crying and pleading for his life.

Interesting parralels between Lancel and Jaime. Lancel was always supposed to be a pale imitation of Jaime, and even in his last act he managed to fail at something Jaime accomplished, saving King's Landing from a cache of dragonfire planted by an insane ruler.

Seeing Melisandre getting called out for being a murderous cunt was fucking satisfying, Davos should've executed the old vampire, but Jon has to be a Stark.

During the scene when Gendry was hauled off, Melisandre predicted she and Arya would meet again, so there's a good chance of them crossing paths early next season. Can't remember if she was Arya's list though. Also you have the Hound & BwB in the same general area as Arya now or heading north so that'll be interesting.

As far as sides in the upcoming conflict, it's probably not too lopsided for team Targaryen. Euron's fleet might run into her while she's heading over so that could reduce her numbers quite a bit. He also might attack the Tyrells on the way to find Dany so that could tie down their armies. Maybe Euron will even attempt to ally (and marry?) Cersei when he finds out Danerys is teamed up with Yara/Theon.

The Lannisters still have the support of the Frey's even though their leader is dead. Depending on how much of the Frey family is dead, it might even be possible that Edmure Tully would side with the Lannisters in exchange for control of all the Riverlands as a puppet. The Riverlands rebelled against the Targareons so there might still be enough bad blood for them to prefer the Lannisters over Danerys. Also, the Lannisters might still have support of some Baratheon forces since Tommen was considered a Baratheon and they rebelled against the Targareons as well. So it might turn out to be:

Westerlands, Riverlands, Stormlands, Iron Islands vs Dorne, Reach and Essos armies


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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2741 on: June 27, 2016, 10:39:10 pm »
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Little finger is running the Vale too and he made it clear to Sansa he wants to sit the iron throne with Sansa as his wife.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2742 on: June 27, 2016, 10:41:27 pm »
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My biggest question is which of the dragons will Jon Targaryen ride?

Rhaegal maybe? That dragon is named after Jon's father, after all.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2743 on: June 27, 2016, 10:46:47 pm »
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During the scene when Gendry was hauled off, Melisandre predicted she and Arya would meet again, so there's a good chance of them crossing paths early next season. Can't remember if she was Arya's list though. Also you have the Hound & BwB in the same general area as Arya now or heading north so that'll be interesting.

As far as sides in the upcoming conflict, it's probably not too lopsided for team Targaryen. Euron's fleet might run into her while she's heading over so that could reduce her numbers quite a bit. He also might attack the Tyrells on the way to find Dany so that could tie down their armies. Maybe Euron will even attempt to ally (and marry?) Cersei when he finds out Danerys is teamed up with Yara/Theon.

The Lannisters still have the support of the Frey's even though their leader is dead. Depending on how much of the Frey family is dead, it might even be possible that Edmure Tully would side with the Lannisters in exchange for control of all the Riverlands as a puppet. The Riverlands rebelled against the Targareons so there might still be enough bad blood for them to prefer the Lannisters over Danerys. Also, the Lannisters might still have support of some Baratheon forces since Tommen was considered a Baratheon and they rebelled against the Targareons as well. So it might turn out to be:

Westerlands, Riverlands, Stormlands, Iron Islands vs Dorne, Reach and Essos armies

IIRC, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr & Melisandre are the last ones on her list. But assuming she meets Gendry down on the road she could possibly strike off the 3 last ones off her list.

And Payne's actor got cancer or something so not sure if he's gone from the show or not.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2744 on: June 27, 2016, 11:13:20 pm »
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Well Season 7 should be Danaerys taking Westeros
Which was something to look forward to, once upon a time...

But it's Daenerys, so she's been piled every advantage possible, while Westeros is massively divided and should have almost no proper armies left after all the slaughter.

Bolton had six thousand men at Winterfell, 90+% of them died, Jon had three thousand men, 95+% of them died (but I guess some will come back alive because they speak as if the wildlings are still a force, maybe they were busy with something more important than the massive battle and didn't take part)...

Meanwhile Daenerys has what, a hundred thousand+ of mounted Dothraki, 10000 Unsullied (finest infantry in the world, also notice how they had to give her the finest cavalry in the world and the finest infantry in the world, otherwise she wouldn't be Daenerys Mary Sueborn), whatever assorted troops she's gathered from the conquered cities ("vast horde of freed men" the books say), and now the pirate army led by the lesbian pirate queen. Oh, not to forget three dragons that take her commands perfectly all of a sudden and are for all intents and purposes invincible and also make castles useless. She has a literally unbeatable army on paper, it's like a 10 year old boy wrote fanfiction about his favorite character.

Gee, I wonder how that fucking conquest will go. Wild guess, Daenerys has another Daenerys Is Triumphant moment. They'll need to get unbelievably convoluted to give her even the smallest challenge, never mind an actual threat. Robb Stark gave the entire united rest-of-Westeros serious trouble with 20k men...
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