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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2715 on: June 27, 2016, 12:59:28 pm »
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waddafak, I can honestly say I don't enjoy the series anymore... I don't like how things are turning out, very little make sense and it just doesn't feel G.R.R.M anymore. All characters are dying for no reason in really stupid ways, a lot of plots have been fucked etc etc, I have very little positive to say about the show these days.

That *Varys enters the scene* and says Blood and fire was cringeworthy af, Arya is suddenly teleporting across the map but that's okay because every character in the show has that ability. I was cringing/pissed when Jon was "elected" King of the north when Sansa literally sits right next to him. I've never liked him but this makes no sense. Manderly has never seen this fucking guy before, knows very well he's a bastard, the only basis is that "HE" defeated Ramsay, WHEN THE HEIR IS LITERALLY SITTING THERE. Like someone said, who can oppose Dany now? And are people just accepting that the Sand Snakes rule Dorne now? I like the Cersei becoming queen and being generally being badass tho because she's so fucking hot imo

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2716 on: June 27, 2016, 01:21:50 pm »
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I want someone to make a no music version of the "king in the north" chant. Should be max cringeworthy.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2717 on: June 27, 2016, 01:26:36 pm »
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Wait, wait.. what? How is Varys with Daenerys on the ship? I'd speculate that he actually has legit teleport magic at his disposal if it weren't for every other character teleporting as well.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2718 on: June 27, 2016, 01:30:40 pm »
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Wait, wait.. what? How is Varys with Daenerys on the ship? I'd speculate that he actually has legit teleport magic at his disposal if it weren't for every other character teleporting as well.

Assuming that in the episodes not everything happens in the same day and the ending was fast forwarded (time wise). Although I didn't see the end because I stopped when Cersei was crowned to skip the Cringenerys Fest.

Damn..she's been in 3 out of 6 Season Endings now.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2719 on: June 27, 2016, 01:50:12 pm »
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Teleporting aside, how the fuck did Arya get there?

It took her what...2-3 season just to get from Kings Landing to Bravos? The distance she travels in the space on an episode here isn't that far off that. Sure there was a bit of meandering originally but she must have been going bloody fast.

Also Margaery wtf.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2720 on: June 27, 2016, 02:01:07 pm »
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Another nonsensical factor, the distance between the Vale, then the Neck then Winterfell is kind of enormous, the idea that an entire fucking army could just amble all that way completely undetected is immersion breaking. Really most of the distances now seem completely arbitrary and nonsensical. Characters, armies, people and things take as long as the plot demands to get from one place to another, no more and no less.

We've been operating on TV show logic, not the logic of the books that underlied the plot until now, which frankly was much more logical. The world building is done, as far as the TV show is concerned, and they have more important matters to worry about than the immersion of book readers. 
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2721 on: June 27, 2016, 02:04:36 pm »
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Yeah I actually picked up the game of thrones mod on Warband this weekend. Kind of gives you a good over view of travelling times and can picture the map quite nicely.

The distances are insane. Unless events in this do span months and they are just really shit at representing timelines.

Edit: Correction. Not the twins. Moat Cailin. Which is Bolton controlled at this stage I believe. In which case Ramsey should have heard long before that Littlefinger was riding up with an army.
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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2722 on: June 27, 2016, 02:11:34 pm »
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Wait, wait.. what? How is Varys with Daenerys on the ship? I'd speculate that he actually has legit teleport magic at his disposal if it weren't for every other character teleporting as well.

Haha, I missed that completely, what are they even doing?! Did they feel the urge to make the moment more epic that they defied all logic and transported him across the narrow sea? Did they pick him up somewhere? I have no fucking clue what's going on

Yeah I actually picked up the game of thrones mod on Warband this weekend. Kind of gives you a good over view of travelling times and can picture the map quite nicely.

The distances are insane. Unless events in this do span months and they are just really shit at representing timelines.

Edit: Correction. Not the twins. Moat Cailin. Which is Bolton controlled at this stage I believe. In which case Ramsey should have heard long before that Littlefinger was riding up with an army.

What? You can travel from Sunspear to the Wall in less than a week.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2723 on: June 27, 2016, 02:25:19 pm »
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I meant more in terms of perspective. So now I have a better 3d representation of where everything is I can compare it more easily.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2724 on: June 27, 2016, 02:55:54 pm »
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They replaced the Varys/Kevan murder scene with Qyburn/Pycelle, which kinda robbed it of it's oomph. Pycelle actually backhanded one of the little murderous munchkins, kind of expected him to go down without any fight, just crying and pleading for his life.

Interesting parralels between Lancel and Jaime. Lancel was always supposed to be a pale imitation of Jaime, and even in his last act he managed to fail at something Jaime accomplished, saving King's Landing from a cache of dragonfire planted by an insane ruler.

Seeing Melisandre getting called out for being a murderous cunt was fucking satisfying, Davos should've executed the old vampire, but Jon has to be a Stark.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2725 on: June 27, 2016, 03:25:22 pm »
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I really hope we see some sort of retrubution on Sam for stealing Heartsbane. But I can almost imagine him keeping it and Randyll never showing up in a scene anymore. I don't even know how he got himself all the way to Oldtown without being hunted down by his brother and a few men.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2726 on: June 27, 2016, 03:26:00 pm »
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Teleporting.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2727 on: June 27, 2016, 03:31:57 pm »
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Best episode of the 6th season imo. At least we got some real GoT tier deaths, jesus christ, I was really overwhelmed by offscene deaths and unrealistic survivals.

Varys being on Dorne then being back on Daenerys' fleet is okay, I mean, Sun Spear isn't that far away from Essos. Cersei being crowned makes sense I mean come on, everyone on the capital with a relatively strong name and standing died.

Daenerys being Mary Sue and all yeah its too boring with her OP army and new alliances, at least she DID something that interferes others for the first time.

Arya was cringy as fuck. Learning to change faces when she was just an apprentice. Faceless Men don't simply carve faces out of ppl and use them, there is magic and other shit involved, and Arya just becomes a pro assassin with her so far useless training skills. And again, travelling from Braavos to Riverlands in that time.

Northerners are crowning anyone who does something cool a king I guess. Still, It was a cool scene.

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2728 on: June 27, 2016, 03:44:35 pm »
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Cersei's hair hasn't grown an inch all season but Varys teleporting from sunspear to Slaver's bay Oh, I'm sorry, Bay of Dragons is somehow fine?

I don't see how you complain about her travelling from Bravoos to the Riverlands which is closer then Sunspear to the "Bay of Dragons". And it bothered me so fucking much that no one said "S-sorrry, i-isn't the rightful queen sitting r-right there?"

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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
« Reply #2729 on: June 27, 2016, 04:05:35 pm »
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They replaced the Varys/Kevan murder scene with Qyburn/Pycelle, which kinda robbed it of it's oomph. Pycelle actually backhanded one of the little murderous munchkins, kind of expected him to go down without any fight, just crying and pleading for his life.

Interesting parralels between Lancel and Jaime. Lancel was always supposed to be a pale imitation of Jaime, and even in his last act he managed to fail at something Jaime accomplished, saving King's Landing from a cache of dragonfire planted by an insane ruler.

Seeing Melisandre getting called out for being a murderous cunt was fucking satisfying, Davos should've executed the old vampire, but Jon has to be a Stark.
well to be fair varys and his little birds killed both kevan lannister and pycelle
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