1 hand no shield. Mostly Cons and some Pros.

[BlindGuy]

Im with teeth: 1hander is fine class. I am currently playing 1hander with 6 shield skill, and I bring a light crappy shield: once into a fight I chuck the shield onto my back to fight 1Handed. I realise this nerfs me alot, BUT I can use the shield to chase those pesky ranged AND chamber couch lances. Also, 1handed blunt weapon knockdown is THE most satisfying combo: Knock em down, quick overhead followed by kick and another overhead: if they survive THAT then damn they stacked a lot of IF

You just gotta bring a little 1handed sword sometimes if you got too many enemy ninjas: when they try for katana spam and you spam them instead, nice leftswing into their black hood, that feels good.

Being 1hander also leaves you plenty of slots open if you need to bring a situational weapon, like a longspear or a crossbow.

[Dexxtaa]

1.) Stylish and elegant look of play makes me think of the old Hollywood movie dueling sequences.

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Oh sorry. This is Hong Kong.

[Osiris]

teeth is right most of my attacks are overhead or right swings

[[Ant]]

I hate to say but the advantages of 1H no shield are substantial. I am a dedicated 1H shield using piss weak shields so I use 1H no shield a fair bit.


----Feints are harder to follow left to right attack and overhead look similar.

----Most air reach in the game by far

----High damage Eureken consistantly 2 hit my brother Owens using an elite scim. He wears 42 head armour and 41 body has 24 str and 5 IF.

----you wont hit your allies

----you can rotate your body more quickly than any other players

----you can double hit polearm users easily

----light weight and low str requirement you can be the fastest warrior on the field and still use a 35 cut weapon!

----you dont need to dedicate 1H is effective from about 100wpf so with a few points in WM a crossbow is easy to pull off.

----1 slot weapons (see above)

----wide range of balanced weapons

----easy chambers

----The option of a shield is always there

[TurmoilTom]

I hate to say but the advantages of 1H no shield are substantial. I am a dedicated 1H shield using piss weak shields so I use 1H no shield a fair bit.

----you wont hit your opponents

 

[Kafein]

----you wont hit your opponents

Thumbs up for truth !

[Kafein]

If you think the right swing is a con of the class you should play it some more. Right swing = best swing.

I like the right swing because it has a good reach bonus a wide active angle, but it's still slow and very weak to early animation glances. As shielders have the worst footwork of all classes, countering someone facehug circling you to the right can be a pain, because basically in that situation the right swing is useless.

So yeah, as a 1h you can sometimes find yourself in a situation where the right swing is nice, but in the general case, it's more of a con because other people trying to kill you can use this weakness on purpose whenever they want.


edit : damned doublepost

[San]

----Most air reach in the game by far

Will I be able to slam dunk my opponent?

[[Ant]]

I dont even.


hahahahahahhahahahghahahahahah its early here in Australia ok.


sometimes (often) an opponent will think he has evaded an attack he hasn't and gets chopped. website k/d of 1.2 at start of level 27

[Bjord]

I was the best swashbuckler, now I am the best Longsworder.

Come at me, bros.

[Kafein]

I dont even.


hahahahahahhahahahghahahahahah its early here in Australia ok.


sometimes (often) an opponent will think he has evaded an attack he hasn't and gets chopped. website k/d of 1.2 at start of level 27

I got 1:1.3 bro. Admittedly I only played battle when I started this gen and a round or two from time to time.

[camperus]

1h no shield gives u valor magnet on siegue 
Seriously im getting rich with my alt at eu2 

[Taser]

1h no shield is the most fun I've had on this mod. I also have fun with shield as well but only when I'm fighting a group solo. 1h no shield is always fun (except when you're targeted by range, that sucks), especially when you take a terrible weapon like a wooden stick and beat a plate user with it. Its hilarious.

[Vodner]

Playing the occasional bout of 1h with no shield (especially in cloth armor) is probably the best way to keep yourself from getting lazy at the game.

[Formless]

If you think the right swing is a con of the class you should play it some more. Right swing = best swing.

1h without a shield is in a fine place balance wise, don't make it a class for the masses.

I love how you guys took 2 things from that WHOLE post and keep bashing me with them.  To respond.

I disagree, my experience with 1hand no shield is extensive you would be hard pressed to find many players with more time on that build then me.  Try it a bit more against good agi 2 hand users and you will notice how overhead and right hand swing leave you open to counter attacks. 

RIGHT HAND SWING.

The  2 hand reach, speed and animation married to a guy who knows how to move his char will leave you open to be hit when you throw the right hand swing.  You have to be careful when you throw the right hand swing, you simply cannot just throw it and not worry about your opponents relative position like a 2 hander can.  You have to keep your position and your opponents relative position in mind when you use the right hand swing.  Its another thing you have to keep in mind that a 2 hander simply does not have to worry about, that is why the right hand swing is a con.  Sure it does give you extended reach, which is nice but that reach is no where near a 2 hander so really no big deal there.  The slight delay however is a killer it leaves you vulnerable against a good 2hander.

OVERHEAD.

Almost same deal as the right hand swing.  You have to be careful when you throw it.  Against a guy who uses good lateral movement you chances of landing it are 50/50.  When you throw it you leave yourself open.  Against an "S" key hero it will work, but fight someone who is good at moving side to side and they can take advantage of it.  That is why I don't throw overhead often.


P.S

I would actually love to see a bonus given for 1 hand no shield, that was a great idea.