Author Topic: 2h swords  (Read 11049 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline BlindGuy

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 996
  • Infamy: 583
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Knight A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • De oppresso liber et plus ultra.
    • View Profile
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #60 on: November 10, 2012, 06:33:55 pm »
+3
....aiming for a 12/33 swashbuckler...

I am not dissing your idea or anything, but I really hate this term Swashbuckler as it's used in crpg: Swashbuckling means banging on your shield, therefor its a SHIELDER, a guy with a 1hander and no shield is just a 1hander, the best actuall class in warband/crpg, and the one all bosslike ppl's use.
I don't know enough

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Froto_the_Loc

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 252
  • Infamy: 94
  • cRPG Player Sir White Pawn
  • CRaPGame
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Locia
  • Game nicks: Froto_the_loc
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #61 on: November 10, 2012, 06:49:00 pm »
+1
Why does everyone hate Digglez so much?
He makes some valid points, even if he is a bit aggressive with his wording.
Hooray for customization and hybridization!
Down with monotonous pure classes!

Offline Akynos

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 369
  • Infamy: 157
  • cRPG Player
  • Is now an agiwhore :*(
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Skono, Rollmops
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #62 on: November 10, 2012, 07:08:56 pm »
+2
...not to forget that 2h can't stop cavalry while polearm can.
Gosh...stopping cav...seing the misery and despair of the stopped enemy as I first slash his horse, then take my time to slash his panicked face as he tries to stand up...I miss that feeling without my GLB...
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Kudos to Kulin_Ban for the video

Offline BlindGuy

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 996
  • Infamy: 583
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Knight A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • De oppresso liber et plus ultra.
    • View Profile
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #63 on: November 10, 2012, 07:40:27 pm »
+6
...not to forget that 2h can't stop cavalry while polearm can.

With a decent build you CAN stop cavarly with 2hander. Stop them fucking dead.
I don't know enough

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline BADPLAYER_old2

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 360
  • Infamy: 235
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Not a Bad player
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #64 on: November 10, 2012, 07:44:41 pm »
+2
...not to forget that 2h can't stop cavalry while polearm can.
Gosh...stopping cav...seing the misery and despair of the stopped enemy as I first slash his horse, then take my time to slash his panicked face as he tries to stand up...I miss that feeling without my GLB...

The Greatswords are all much better anti-cavalry weapons than anything shorter than an Awlpike in polearms, even without the rear.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline SirCymro_Crusader

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1095
  • Infamy: 134
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Rook A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #65 on: November 10, 2012, 07:46:49 pm »
+1
...not to forget that 2h can't stop cavalry while polearm can.
Gosh...stopping cav...seing the misery and despair of the stopped enemy as I first slash his horse, then take my time to slash his panicked face as he tries to stand up...I miss that feeling without my GLB...

You can stop cavalry with any weapon, it just becomes harder the shorter that weapon is.

Damage is based on speed so if a horse is running at you full throttle, the guy misses his attack and you hit his horse chances are it will die (below destrier)

Offline Uumdi

  • Duke
  • *******
  • Renown: 651
  • Infamy: 59
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • Ready to Die
    • View Profile
  • Faction: CHAOS
  • Game nicks: Uumdi_of_Chaos
  • IRC nick: Uumdi
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #66 on: November 10, 2012, 07:49:07 pm »
+1
meh, nub and agiwhore, he needs to boost his str, I would need only one swing to cut this pig in half   :rolleyes:


Hahahaha, 8 minutes in.  Evidence that we should have the ability to throw flamberges.

"Throws straight as an arrow... cuts an enormous fricken hole!"
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Ten shots of prayers, ten shots a day
A shot of thrill to hide the pain.
They can`t win, they just don`t cry,
The troopers know they live to die.

Offline Leshma

  • Kickstarter Addict
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 706
  • Infamy: 1043
  • cRPG Player Sir White Rook A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • VOTE 2024
    • View Profile
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #67 on: November 10, 2012, 08:23:22 pm »
+2
With a decent build you CAN stop cavarly with 2hander. Stop them fucking dead.

Improved German Greatsword is perfect tool for that.

From my experience greatswords are better for dealing with cav than four directional polearms.

But it's possible to stop cav with virtually anything. Personally, I love killing overconfident cav players with Iron Staff thrust.

Offline RandomDude

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 431
  • Infamy: 43
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Knight
  • I play now! but I suck =(
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: RandomDude
  • IRC nick: RandomDude
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2012, 08:38:04 pm »
+2
With a decent build you CAN stop cavarly with 2hander. Stop them fucking dead.

nothin's better than killing horse + rider in 1

Offline Templar_Ratigan

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 183
  • Infamy: 21
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #69 on: November 10, 2012, 09:22:00 pm »
+3
People use them because they're good. Really, really damn good and in my opinion, the most powerful weapon class in the game if you want something that can perform well in almost any circumstance in any given game mode.

I don't use them. Well, at least not anymore. At this point I'm looking for a challenge, and it's just something I can't get with two-handers. I'll probably end up aiming for a 12/33 swashbuckler once I max out my gen bonus.


Quiet...you're telling it like it is. People don't enjoy that.

Ok I jest. But there is some truth to this.

I too played 2h for 3 gens or so, easiest time i've ever had in this game.
What I don't understand is why this game rewards players for effortless kills.
Every patch seems to buff / indirectly buff 2h, why is this?

Well there are some extremely skilled melee players who use two handed weapons, I wont deny this; in fact I actively encourage watching such people. Unfortunately there is a much larger majority who use two handed and who complain more than most other players in the module.

And yeah, the irony is I complain a great deal too, but when was the last time I came here asking for a nerf because something stopped me lol-chopping my way through a mass of people?

It's like many situations in video games. You have to wade through a great mass of people who play up their affront at actually being beaten by someone better than them into a balance issue that may not exist; so you can find the few legitimate points along the way.

Some people here have great points when it comes to balance and those players have many different styles and builds of play and yes, many are two handers. Just a shame that those with decent points to make are drowned out by the masses without any.

But playing with a two handed character has been shining in the sun for a long time now and frankly they are only slightly tarnished these days by the rise in the archer population. Which is still nowhere near as close as that brief period when archers were the ones shining....where every man and his pet rat were full of holes.

Scary times. Of course this is just my impression.

Id say now it is best just to kick back, piss about and play whatever, I learnt the hard way what happens if you are good at something on the fringe. Actually that isnt fair, its better to say: I learnt the hard way what happens when you dont piss and whine the second anything threatens your play-style.

I should have fought, I was a passive fool.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2012, 09:33:37 pm by Templar_Ratigan »
He reached for his pants and grabbed the cheese, missing the bees whose honey he needs.

Offline Bjord

  • Amateur heretic
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1328
  • Infamy: 1109
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • salty turks
    • View Profile
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #70 on: November 10, 2012, 10:22:57 pm »
+1
To be honest, the only reason I am 2h is because I am able to kill almost anyone who lets me get close enough or is foolish enough to charge at me head on with a horse.

The most fun I ever had, however, was with a 24/18 swashbuckler build.

Naturally, I hate archers - friendly or otherwise - as they are my natural counter. Yet, I refrain from chanting the nerf chant about archers. It's just something you have to accept; you can't kill everything.
When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back.

Offline BlindGuy

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 996
  • Infamy: 583
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Knight A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • De oppresso liber et plus ultra.
    • View Profile
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #71 on: November 10, 2012, 10:24:05 pm »
0
(click to show/hide)

Templar_Ratigan = Pebble_Pusher, stone throwing legend.
I don't know enough

visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Akynos

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 369
  • Infamy: 157
  • cRPG Player
  • Is now an agiwhore :*(
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Skono, Rollmops
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #72 on: November 10, 2012, 11:48:10 pm »
0
You can stop cavalry with any weapon, it just becomes harder the shorter that weapon is.

Damage is based on speed so if a horse is running at you full throttle, the guy misses his attack and you hit his horse chances are it will die (below destrier)

when I mean stop, I mean stop the horse on the spot. And if you don't kill the horse, you risk that the attack of the rider hits you.
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Kudos to Kulin_Ban for the video

Offline Leshma

  • Kickstarter Addict
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 945
  • Infamy: 1232
  • cRPG Player Sir White Rook A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • VOTE 2024
    • View Profile
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #73 on: November 11, 2012, 02:01:39 am »
0
If there isn't too many cav around, I prefer to leave the poor animal alive and just kill the rider.

Quote
And if you don't kill the horse, you risk that the attack of the rider hits you.

If you know what you're doing, not really. Only if you're facing some of the truly good cav but you still have the upper hand most of the time if you are using greatsword.

If you're using polearm thrust, better cav players will attack you after you stop their horse.

Sorry Akynos, but you don't obviously don't know much about this matter.

Offline SMEGMAR

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 463
  • Infamy: 316
  • cRPG Player A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • Swag so dope, snapback rehab.
    • View Profile
Re: 2h swords
« Reply #74 on: November 11, 2012, 02:24:11 am »
0
And now newmy old friends cry about OP 2h, while we, old-hats, miss our old Swords of Tears and Cookies :wink: 
You're piker, your argument is invalid  :wink:

>newmy old friend
>forum.meleegaming.com
>meme arrows
« Last Edit: November 11, 2012, 02:35:43 am by SMEGMAR »
visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Smegmar #1 NA HOC guy that actually doesn't suck dick at cRPG