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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2012, 06:21:31 am »
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2h stab is already the most OP thing out there. You can point blank quite easily, you hold it at the very end of the animation for AGES and it still does a crap ton of damage. I can see lots of agi whores running around with these weapons, which would be sad.
I'd like to see an Estoc, but maybe a 1h variety (like in deluge, very very very fast (above 100) with a similar reach but ONLY stab)
And the pierce damage should not be higher than 28 or 29, as with the length and 2h animations, it would make 2h even more preferable over tin can opening

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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2012, 06:35:45 am »
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Think of the strength it will require and the fact that two handed stabs are now arguably inferior to other stab types, I don't believe this would be in any way overpowered.
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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2012, 01:35:19 pm »
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Think of the strength it will require and the fact that two handed stabs are now arguably inferior to other stab types, I don't believe this would be in any way overpowered.
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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2012, 02:17:04 pm »
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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2012, 02:33:30 pm »
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Think of the strength it will require and the fact that two handed stabs are now arguably inferior to other stab types


Trust me when I say I don't think very many people are arguing this.

The two handed stab is absolutely phenomenal right now. Its literally the only stab I know of right now that gives the weapon more range due to the animation. That said, i'd personally love to see this weapon implemented with the appropriate stats.
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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2012, 10:07:12 pm »
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Think of the strength it will require and the fact that two handed stabs are now arguably inferior to other stab types, I don't believe this would be in any way overpowered.


I'm going to assume that this was a sarcastic post, and +1 you.
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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2012, 06:30:48 am »
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Hmm, retrospectively that was probably a stupid thing to say haha.
What I should have said is that they are slower than other stab types and thud at close range more easily (mainly referring to polearm stab) and I'm not sure if I am just some form of tard, but I tend to swing more often than stab simply because it is easier to hit people with. Polearm stabs are better than two handed at close range which is (in my case, being Australian) my main concern.
I regret typing that comment before, it was very stupid :).
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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2012, 11:37:57 am »
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The deluge mod had an Estoc it looked pretty good.

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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2012, 05:52:04 pm »
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I agree with Teeth's stats, not the original ones which described it as having no cutting edge and then gave it 31 cutting damage. Only the 1h version, please, no more lolstabbers than we have already.
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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2012, 10:55:18 pm »
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I say they should have this but the better fix 2 hand stab so it can't outreach polearms with stats saying they have more reach then the sword, but then get outreach anyways.

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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2012, 11:36:06 pm »
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 The problem is the hold time. Still a 2H with only one decent attack direction isn't going to be super deadly.

2H strength is that each attck direction is useful most of the time. Polearm and 1H have very conditional attack directions with varying speed and reach.



I would endorse both a 1H and a 2H "sword" (if anyone has played f&s).


A 1H stabbing sword skin does exist in fire and sword. I don't know if we have the appropriate permissions.


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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2012, 06:18:34 pm »
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The problem is the hold time. Still a 2H with only one decent attack direction isn't going to be super deadly.

2H strength is that each attck direction is useful most of the time. Polearm and 1H have very conditional attack directions with varying speed and reach.



I would endorse both a 1H and a 2H "sword" (if anyone has played f&s).


A 1H stabbing sword skin does exist in fire and sword. I don't know if we have the appropriate permissions.
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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2012, 11:42:39 pm »
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Bump, don't want this idea to disappear. 2h could use a bit more variety.
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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2013, 06:29:02 pm »
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Current lolstab not effective enough? Trololololollloloool.

Nerf all the other 2h thrusts by 8 damage and then add estoc of max 106 length with 32peirce 30 cut. Then it might make sense, have a place, and be unique.

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Re: New two-handed thrusting swords: Estoc
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2013, 01:12:51 am »
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bump due to weapon being neglected in patch rip estoc
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