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login "A long sword with a sharp point but no edge, having instead a diamond cross section 'blade' suitable for thrusting with no cutting edge, having instead a secondary attack of causing blunt trauma. It was used by European Knights for penetrating plate mail. Similar weapons were also used in Russia where it was called a Kanzer. The Italians called this weapon 'stocco' and the English called it a 'Tuck'.Polearms and 1handers both have several "thrust" niche weapons like espadas or spears that have limited or really weak swings, and usually fast speed. Thrust damage is usually in the 30's, and they are very popular since there is so much armor. Of course if you're a Poleaxe, you're good at everything. But so are the current 2handed swords.
The highest pierce on a sword is the newly increased German Greatsword at 27P, with 39 cut sideswings. Next is the Great Sword, what I currently use, with 26P and 37 cut.
Basically the only things that make these different from their high cut sister swords is 1-2 points of damage on the thrust or swing. Its boring and they all feel the same to use. No fancy gentleman weapons to duel with sophistication and class like you can with espadas.
I would love to see a niche 2handed weapon added, a historical weapon called the Estoc. It was between 115 and 150 cm in length, averaged 2 kg in weight, and could either have a cutting edge or be basically a rigid, blunt-damage dealing spike, designed primarily to penetrate armor. It was based on the longsword, and eventually evolved into 1handed rapiers and the like. It was also used on horseback to replace the lance once it was shattered, to continue thrusting into scrubs with steel.
I think this type of weapon could have two versions, bastard sword and great sword, and something in the middle.
Estoc 27p thrust
30c/17(20?)b swing
100 spd
104 reach
1.8 weight
Kanzer (pro russian model) (give it a fur hilt or something to match Kuyaks ahah)
29p thrust
32c/19(22?)b swing
94 speed
114 reach
2 weight
Great Estoc31p thrust
34c/23(25?)b swing (overhead swing only?)
90 speed
125 reach
2.5 weight
Estoc would basically be a cross between Longsword and an Espada/Side Sword or War Spear. Usable on horseback or with a shield.
Kanzer fits around Two-Handed Sword/Great Sword area, no horseback or shield. Like a Goedendag if blunted, but weaker swings and a much better thrust.
Great Estoc should be the Poleaxe of the great swords. Similar speeds and pierce damage, Great Estoc loses lots of swing damage for 2hand thrust animation. Poleaxe still has shield bust + horse rear. Wanna see an Awlpike type weapon in 2hand class, this would be good for it.
Not too sure about the numbers (I like the pierce damage, not sure about swings) but you should get the idea. Espadas get +3 to both thrust and stab instead of +2 stab +3 swing like all other weapons, that could be an idea for these swords too. I think it would be a good addition to create more diversity in 2handers. I imagine a model of this type of sword has been made by now, if not I'd ask some 3d talent to give it a shot.
Also, I know how people feel about 2hand stabs already, "LOL OP BULLSHIT FUCK U NOOB LOLSTABBER." Lately though I've seen the popularity of spears, pikes, and other pokey polearms skyrocket, and more hoplites than ever before. Hoplites get several more points of damage on their thrusts, comparable reach with the hoplite animation bonus, and have a lovely shield to stand around and poke. 1handers get a few options to have 30+ pierce damage on their thrusts as well, and have very effective animations themselves + shield. 2hand seems lacking in this regard, and would love to see something cool added to plug the gap.
Me beta-testing the Estoc in the top secret cRPG 2.0 engine: