make long hafted knob/spike maces balanced

[Tydeus]

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i pulled this image from a GD thread, a +3 poleaxe is

32b
33p thrust
90 spd
141 reach
3.3 weight

compared to +3 knob mace:

32b
23b thrust (-10, inferior damage type iirc)
93 spd (+3)
133 reach (-9)
3.3 weight
unbalanced (!)

spike mace +3

35b (+3)
22b thrust (-11)
91 speed (+1)
138 length (-3)
3.5 weight (+.2)
unbalanced (!)

based on this, i think it's reasonable to ask for a buff to the maces, since they're "dedicated" blunt weapons that significantly worse than an alt-fire on the poleaxe. (although, you guys might think that the slight damage/speed advantages make up for the unbalanced/range)

edit: also unless it was changed for this patch the poleaxes altfire does have knockdown

Lol cmpfail on those alt mode stats.

[zagibu]

... the 2 speed is worth it over 3 damage imo

Only in your head.

To differentiate the two weapons, I'd give the knobbed mace crushthrough and make it slower and a little heavier.

[CrazyCracka420]

I think the long hafted knobbed mace is fine, I'm a polearm user, but I'd actually go in the other direction, weapons like the long bardiche should have the unbalanced tag added to them (it's my go to weapon for a polearm, sheathable and is balanced, however it's slow as fuck.

[Strider]

Yep. Long Spiked Mace is a mediocre weapon.

[Rebelyell]

this weapon is very popular now, asking for buffs is just you being biased

if anything the poleaxe should be nerfed across the board

he have a point,
poleaxe is pro weapon now, there

all dmg ttpes with decent spead and good DMG output

[BlindGuy]

However, it seems that all of the knockdown weapons besides 1h are destined to be unbalanced. Dayum shame.

Check the shop, click the button for 2handers: They have Studded Warclub, Goedendag, and the massively spammy Mace. All balanced, all knockdown, all can be spammed, and the goedendag even gets a nice pierce attack to finnish off the enemy once he is knocked down.


I kinda want an explantion of the item called Light Spiked Club: its a ok starter weapon for a 1hander, its got pierce damage so u can land some hits, but in the shop it is labelled "Knockdown". Now I have killed hundreds of players with this crappy thing for 2 years now and it has never knocked down anyone.

[Dezilagel]

I kinda want an explantion of the item called Light Spiked Club: its a ok starter weapon for a 1hander, its got pierce damage so u can land some hits, but in the shop it is labelled "Knockdown". Now I have killed hundreds of players with this crappy thing for 2 years now and it has never knocked down anyone.

That's because you can't knockdown with pierce damage; the knockdown tag doesn't do anything for it.

May be a troll, may be an oversight.

[BlindGuy]

That's because you can't knockdown with pierce damage...

Yeah I realise that thanks

What I meant was: what a troll tag, I reported it 2 years ago and it's still there even though it is just a line of text....Maybe Im just not using enough PS