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Feint Help
« on: October 18, 2012, 12:13:36 am »
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Having used something other than Horse Archery or Hoplite the past few days, I have realized I cannot get past others' blocks.

I can manually block pretty decently, but how do I feint well? Certain combinations?  Holds?  Randomly flailing around?
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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 12:17:16 am »
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Either get a buddy for some gang-banging action, spam kicks (while you can, because blocking while kicking is going out the window as soon as the beta launcher gets released in December 2010) or trade swings and blocks until the other guy gets bored and lets you win. I personally hardly ever feint anymore because of how ineffective it has become.

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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 12:22:58 am »
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Either get a buddy for some gang-banging action, spam kicks (while you can, because blocking while kicking is going out the window as soon as the beta launcher gets released in December 2010) or trade swings and blocks until the other guy gets bored and lets you win. I personally hardly ever feint anymore because of how ineffective it has become.

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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 12:25:18 am »
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I've noticed feinting has fallen out of favor lately. (Or my ping jumping from 50 to 500 at the drop of a hat is affecting it) I find myself using it less and less and just relying on getting the best angle for your swing. Pull your mouse to the left when you right swing and to the right when you left. Of course this is less effective with the turn speed nerf, so you might need to hold your swing for a moment as you turn.

Not to say feinting isn't effective, it just doesn't work against skilled players. And sometimes will get you killed when a skilled player can read your attack patterns. I mostly use feints just to set up the best angle for my swing.
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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 12:41:59 am »
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players/the metagame in crpg are so bad feinting will get you hit more then it will benefit you

a lot of players now just roll around with 80 body armor and spam side swings waiting for you to feint (i dont blame them, i wouldnt bother trying to block either since the game is so slow and you need to kill people fast, so hoping you feint/bounce is actually not that retarded anymore)... yea i too wish the devs balance team played the game sometimes

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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 12:55:55 am »
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If you feint on every attack, all the other guy has to do is ready a swing and release at the right moment and you will die.

Feints counter held blocks, held attacks counter feints, held blocks counter held attacks. Rock, paper, scissors + kick is the crpg metagame.
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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 01:17:42 am »
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Learn to hold your attack and wiggle your mouse (works sometimes :D). Also helluva lot better damage when you learn how long to hold until the release. Best to use some kind of a feint & held attack combo because neither one is effective alone really. Also break the usual left right left right left right pattern and feint an overhead or stab somewhere.
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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 01:21:45 am »
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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 01:29:17 am »
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There are many different types of feints. But my favorite is sometimes called "Feint Feinting" It is where you hold an attack then let go to a quick block/reload (looking like your gonna change attack direction) then you quickly feint to the same attack direction you started with. Gives your enemy the idea that your trying to trick them but your not. :D Counter Physcology.

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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 01:41:36 am »
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I developed my current playstyle primarily from watching Rhaelys of Chaos play. The whole feint-spamming rightswing thing. It seems to be very effective against newer players, but I've got to resort to S-key heavy outranging against skilled players. It makes me feel like a real asshole, too.
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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2012, 01:58:31 am »
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Feinting is more of a tool in
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cRPG is pretty slow, and as others have said feinting is more likely to get you hit than to aid. It's conditionally useful against people, depending on how they play.
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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2012, 02:05:41 am »
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Didn't use feinting for a long time, but having used it a bit with a 1H lately, I have to say it's still effective when performed well. Sneaking in a feint here and there is nice, just don't resort into feint-spamming. Getting hits in is mostly about timing to be honest. It matters for everything. Timing a dodge, timing an outreach, timing a chamber, timing a thrust-stun, timing a held attack etc. :)
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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2012, 02:09:53 am »
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If you notice someone is blocking frequently, try holding your attack and waiting for them to drop guard. This won't work too well on experienced players but sometimes it will keep them from attacking you back until help arrives.

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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2012, 07:47:30 am »
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Problem is in cRPG feinting is shit-slow and not really worth it against any half-decent player.

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Re: Feint Help
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2012, 08:19:53 am »
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In my personal experience I've found well-timed holds to be more useful then feints. Holds can be amazing if used correctly, just don't try and use them against a spammer obviously ^^ It is how I break up flows in shielder fights.
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