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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2012, 02:18:56 am »
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I mean really if you want to break this down (and hopefully my facts are accurate) TKoV has its members, HoC, and MB in the Strat Faction. FCC has Cavaliers, Unicorns, BRD, and two other clans that I cannot remember for the life of me.

KUTT has its members + 2 Swiss Members + 6-10? Teutonics and Hospitallers have themselves (not sure who else).
Hero_Party has 7~ members with 4~ SemenStorm guys, and then the billions within them. Should we be expecting an anti-hero_party alliance? Oh wait...
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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2012, 02:28:11 am »
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Hero_Party has 7~ members with 4~ SemenStorm guys, and then the billions within them. Should we be expecting an anti-hero_party alliance? Oh wait...

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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2012, 02:35:54 am »
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NA has always had MegaBlocs in every strat, they just collapse very quickly in every strat. We have had the massive Empire, then Red VS Green, and now a few new ones that may or may not loom up. Given the turbulent history of NA as a whole, I'm not sure anyone should be worried all that much, things change quickly.

The difference is that this strat there's much less incentive for involvement from EU factions. Some of the reasoning behind the old blocs, the Northern Empire for example, was related to the potential threat of EU invasion, due to the fact that everyone shared one smaller map.

Because of the fact that the map is split in a much grander way (it now has more overall fiefs) there's less of a real reason for the NA factions to play big and team up since their potential for being opposed is far lesser.

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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #63 on: October 02, 2012, 02:49:56 am »
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I love the fact that 2 clans and 90 members constitutes a mega block in NA :D  There are a further 300+ NA players in clans with currently undeclared diplomacy and that's ignoring all the clans under 10 members plus the independents.

In EU we have 400+ in the UIF and 350+ in the anti-UIF.  That only leaves 80ish in currently neutral clans of at least 10 members.

23% of NA allying still has a long way to go before it gets anywhere near the 48% we have in the biggest EU block.  Please note I am ignoring really small clans and independents so actually these percentages are high.

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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #64 on: October 02, 2012, 03:37:35 am »
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I love the fact that 2 clans and 90 members constitutes a mega block in NA :D  There are a further 300+ NA players in clans with currently undeclared diplomacy and that's ignoring all the clans under 10 members plus the independents.

In EU we have 400+ in the UIF and 350+ in the anti-UIF.  That only leaves 80ish in currently neutral clans of at least 10 members.

23% of NA allying still has a long way to go before it gets anywhere near the 48% we have in the biggest EU block.  Please note I am ignoring really small clans and independents so actually these percentages are high.

Its a lot more than 90 including both clans vassals/allies.  More like 130-160 range.  It includes 40% of the NA cities and between 1/3rd and a 1/4th of the castles and villages.
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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #65 on: October 02, 2012, 03:47:09 am »
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Key Words.

Taken out of context, this was in response to people who use violence to take what they want. I only used the word take as a comparison. A more accurate word would be buy. It's hard to be pissed about losing a fief when you get another one and shit on top of that to sweeten the deal. However when you get attacked by a bunch of guys and lose what you have and have nothing to show for it, that's something else entirely.

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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #66 on: October 02, 2012, 04:00:11 am »
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It's hard to be pissed about losing a fief when you get another one and shit on top of that to sweeten the deal. However when you get attacked by a bunch of guys and lose what you have and have nothing to show for it, that's something else entirely.

Yep BRD did this to me (took my village), and after that  they robbed my caravan that had most of my money in the form of goods. Doing stuff like this makes you look like the bad guys. But i guess they dont call them the "bridge burners" for nothing.
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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #67 on: October 02, 2012, 04:02:52 am »
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Can we just make one badass mega NA alliance and fck up EU?

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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #68 on: October 02, 2012, 04:04:51 am »
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Its a lot more than 90 including both clans vassals/allies.  More like 130-160 range.  It includes 40% of the NA cities and between 1/3rd and a 1/4th of the castles and villages.

Also kesh can you name 2 hospitaller vassals, (i cant even think of 1). Also name 1 ally besides Kutt (occitan is gone to EU), both clans amount to 86 players it be interesting to hear where the other 80 are coming from.
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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #69 on: October 02, 2012, 04:04:58 am »
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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #70 on: October 02, 2012, 04:07:29 am »
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Taken out of context, this was in response to people who use violence to take what they want. I only used the word take as a comparison. A more accurate word would be buy. It's hard to be pissed about losing a fief when you get another one and shit on top of that to sweeten the deal. However when you get attacked by a bunch of guys and lose what you have and have nothing to show for it, that's something else entirely.

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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #71 on: October 02, 2012, 04:08:11 am »
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Can we just make one badass mega NA alliance and fck up EU?

Absolutely. 100%. No.
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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #72 on: October 02, 2012, 04:12:25 am »
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Absolutely. 100%. No.
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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #73 on: October 02, 2012, 04:12:57 am »
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Its a lot more than 90 including both clans vassals/allies.  More like 130-160 range.  It includes 40% of the NA cities and between 1/3rd and a 1/4th of the castles and villages.

List them kesh. The only people that i know that you can add to the Hosp clan/vassal status is astralis and they are 14 members. You can probably stretch it and add NH for another 17, but that's about it. All other sections are not even remotely allied.

If anything the current strat map is probably like this(and this is my OWN reading of everything)

Allies(official/unofficial) (Members)
Velucan Empire + FCC (82 + 40)
Hosp + Kutt + Astralis + FPF (44 + 46 +14 + 10)
Chaos + PH (19 + 11)

Independents(Other Large or slightly important factions)
Josho Shogunate ( 34)
Remnant (32)
Hero Party (11)
LLJK (26)
NH (17)
Order Dus Chevaliers (15)
SWF (7)
Coalition(133, but unknown NA member count)

War
KUTT v SWF
LLJK v Shogunate
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Re: NA Diplomacy Announcement from the Knights Hospitaller
« Reply #74 on: October 02, 2012, 04:19:28 am »
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List them kesh. The only people that i know that you can add to the Hosp clan/vassal status is astralis and they are 14 members. You can probably stretch it and add NH for another 17, but that's about it. All other sections are not even remotely allied.

If anything the current strat map is probably like this(and this is my OWN reading of everything)

Allies(official/unofficial) (Members)
Velucan Empire + FCC (82 + 40)
Hosp + Kutt + Astralis + FPF (44 + 46 +14 + 10)
Chaos + PH (19 + 11)

Independents(Other Large or slightly important factions)
Josho Shogunate ( 34)
Remnant (32)
Hero Party (11)
LLJK (26)
NH (17)
Order Dus Chevaliers (15)
SWF (7)
Coalition(133, but unknown NA member count)

War
KUTT v SWF
LLJK v Shogunate

Anders NH just clarified in this thread they are not allies/vassals of hospitaller. Are astralis legit hosp vassals? Other than frank the tank i didnt know FPF had any relation to hosp, or they are kutts vassals?
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