To all those saying we were looking for an excuse to break are NAP, simply ask Adrswaru how many offers were made to him. From the last minute talks that were held with him it seemed he was less than willing to negotiate with us and was intent on attacking the castle no matter what happened, this is understandable i suppose as once you have committed your army it would be embarrassing to withdraw.
I can say for myself and alpha we were simply trying to insure we didn't get screwed by both parties. Ofc. this is strateugs so we did.
We were originally meant to transfer Jelbegi to the Nords in exchange to an NAP. This was dome in a fairly casual way, with very few proper terms written out, which is what has caused this rapid break down in relations.
The second issue here was in fact to do with Members of the Deserters (not the Templars or the Mercs) damaging the s&d in Nord fiefs. It seem that some people had believed that Deserters were under the control of the mercs, which apparently they are not. Andswaru felt that the action of the Deserters was a fair reason to reclaim Jelbegi castle in order to secure the Nord borders.
At the same time as these events were transpiring, a fief exchange from the mercs for Senuzgda Castle was changed. Templars were not set to gain control of Ismirala. As this was seen as a private dealing between ourselves and nords i did not see that it needed to be published. it was not until yesterday when the announcement of annexation was made that i learned the full extent of the problems.
During the talks several deals were offered to Andwarsu, all of which he felt were inappropriate, either inadvertently dragging him into an alliance with factions he did not want or denying his members access to larger battles.
At no point have we attempted to incite or insult the Nordmen, their leadership or members. We were civil with them and sought to solve this problem diplomatically. During the discussion threats were levied by Andswaru that if the NAP were to be broken that the Nords would 'declare themselves to the UIF', whether this was made as a quip, or as a genuine threat i cannot say but i am sure it is a warning of things to come.
I grow tired of strategus, the diplomacy and the misrepresentation of my clan by others who were not present at teh talks yet feel they have a right to comment on how events unfolded.
tl:dr We got played by nords at the diplomacy game.
