Well, that was fun

[Bjord]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Neutral

a retard trying to teach me something, fun

That's exactly what I said, so who is a retard now? You are not NEUTRAL because you are ACTIVELY ALIGNING yourself AGAINST both UIF AND "Carebear" bloc. Just because you're fighting everyone doesn't mean you're neutral. That just means you want to get roflstomped by everyone.

Don't bother replying, I have you on my ignore list from now on.

[Olwen]

man, forgot retards dunno how to read ...

seriously bjord, i know you're still at school and failing at it, so don't try to teach me

2. Belonging to neither side in a controversy

[Garem]

This was me when I tried to play EU side against the UIF.

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This is me now on NA side.

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This in no way furthers the problems highlighted in this thread. I just wanted you to know that we're having a gay old time over on NA. That is all.

[Teeth]

If you spend enough time and effort building an alternative to what you call "carebear alliances", you would find that is is not impossible.

There is no alternative to carebear alliances as long as there is one left. We saw that last Strat. The huge carebear alliance won, as a result, the other clans now take an alternative approach to getting their asses UIF'ed and form their own carebear alliance. Where they are all friends with eachother to face the other group of clans that are all friends with eachother. Now there is no one left to form a carebear alliance with, so the only option left, to be able to compete in strat is joining one of the two existing blocs. Yippy-kay-yee aint that fucking interesting.

Strat 4.0 has a great potential to accommodate large number of clans including medium and small ones. The great wars will come in time. And this game is about the wars, isn't it?

That is where you are plainly wrong. How did strat work out for any of the clans outside the UIF or a different big alliance? They got their asses beat by the bigger alliances. The game is all about numbers, small clans can not compete. Case and point, I counted 22 fiefs outside of the two big carebear alliances, want to bet that you can count them on one hand in two weeks?

This in no way furthers the problems highlighted in this thread. I just wanted you to know that we're having a gay old time over on NA. That is all.

I'm so jelly of NA.

[KingBread]

This "isolative" tendency is highly common with cultures where English is considered unimportant (Brazilian gamers, Spanish Gamers, Korean gamers(IMO the worst), Chinese gamers - all good examples).

Bjord... Have you ever been to Poland ? Every polish guy and girl who were educated after communism system felt and achieve at least high school degree can speak english on communicative level. Unless they choose to focus on diffrent language, but still you can't avoid english lessons in Poland. There are many polish guys around CRPG in international clans and many non polish guys in Greys. So your argument is invalid. Banning us won't help destroying huge alliances.


I think that only solution to this problem is involving more people in to strategus. We are very small community with even fewer active strategus players. So everybody knows everybody and Teeh can whine all day but people that spend so many hours on the battlefield will not just simply attack each other.  But like 2 thousand players more and UIF vs Coalition could be only a conflict involving 1/3rd part of map/people. But eventually it will end up in 2 alliances blocks as well after some time.

Just look at democracy systems every new democracy starts with gazyllions of parties and finally ends up with 2.

I personally think that making bandids liars will improve gaming experience of small fiefless clans.

[Erasmas]

Teeth, this vision has a name -  Utopia. Or singleplayer mode 

As to other points I dare to disagree - to some extent. You miss one important point. Economics. If I predict correctly, Strat 4.0 will not be about the land you own, cause it gives you close to nothing now. Or rather the purpose of that land has changed. The map is a LOT bigger, and even big clans will have a problem to defend extensive number of fiefs. Not that they won't try - sure they will . That could be seen in Strat 3.0 already, and now it will become more clear. The ability to stay alive and carve out the piece of land for a medium/small clan increased like hell. Moreover, the ability to raise mayhem for medium/small clans increased. And I think that with little luck - an patience - that is to be seen soon.

Well, we will talk in a few months. Cause this is a marathon, not a sprint.   

[Havoco]

It'll always be two big alliances until the devs implement something that will promote being smaller. Maybe even a backstabbing feature. I had an idea for it, but I'll have to type it out later.

[Vovka]

What the problem to be a small clan in a big alliance? and fight the little clans of the enemy alliance 

[Havoco]

Nothing, but that's not my point. Some ppl just want to see the game run its course with a group of 1-2 allies fighting another group of 1-2 allies with multiple wars. They want to see it more like singleplayer (as far as diplomacy and wars are concerned).

[Smoothrich]

What the problem to be a small clan in a big alliance? and fight the little clans of the enemy alliance 

Haha, I just made an entire thread about that cuz I figured that's the general philosophy behind the UIF, but people don't understand or don't treat alliances the same way.  They instead they make their own alliances, become crippled in anxiety and fear over being wiped out, while simply get more and more clans as "vassals" and proxy war with them in unfair fights or lots of other unfun things that promote bad gameplay.

Clans should feel safe in attacking other clans regardless of big alliances as long as the fights are fair.  Instead people are afraid guys like UIF, or they start to do this themselves, will respond to any threat with combined armies, massive invasions, funneling of resources in proxy, things like that.

No way to enforce this of course but maybe people don't have to be so doom and gloom about clans that trust each other being allies, and those in these alliances should treat them as a security cushion to go and recruit in to rebuild in case they lose, instead of a way to always stack the odds in your favor at points of attack.

[Vovka]

Clans should feel safe in attacking other clans regardless of big alliances as long as the fights are fair.  Instead people are afraid guys like UIF, or they start to do this themselves, will respond to any threat with combined armies, massive invasions, funneling of resources in proxy, things like that.

Faction A: To the arms! war!
Faction B: Сhallenge accepted!
Faction A: Cool! This will be a terrific war! But please do not take more than 20 cudgels in the army! Use only light horses! And do not attack our fiefs we  craft goods here!
Faction B: Ok! And u let us time to retreate and regroup in shield wall!

At a time when there was no UIF. 200 + member faction stood at the head of the block consisting of 90% of the total number of factions. And all what they did it a crusade into a fraction of ten with 1 fief. Yeah those were good times 

[Ninja_Khorin]

I'm so jelly of NA.

Land of the free! Make Byzantium come join the Shogunate on NA with Ninjas!

[chadz]

Yes, current situation is, once again, shitty as hell. I'm trying very hard to find something to not only crush those big alliances, but nerf big clans into oblivion as hell. Once a 30 guy clan/group/whatever is no longer more dangerous than a 10 guy clan, and clans start splitting up and fight each other, then I'm happy. Before that, I'll swing that feature&nerf hammer so long and hard until I succeed. Strat will have no future until I succeed in that.

I'm not blaming anyone in those factions, although I really don't get why you're playing the way you're playing. My limited experience in previous strat rounds in a carebear faction was like this:
Let's attack!
We can't, they'd crush us!
Then let's attack them!
We can't, they'd have allies that crush us.
So what now?
We find allies ourselves!

Needless to say, the fun was somewhat limited. I can say I never had so much fun as I have in current strat, of course with an expiry date, it's just a matter of time until we get crushed, but, even if it's only for a few days, I prefer having fun in those, than being in a soviet union simulator for half a year.

[HardRice]

chadz, go personally destroy them with your infinite supply of troops.

[chadz]

That's one of many options.