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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2012, 06:58:15 am »
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chadz, go personally destroy them with your infinite supply of troops.

This is what I suggest to him everytime.  Lie and say its AI generated random events like a Paradox game then spawn lordly heavy armor stacks to grief clans that are turtling/carebearing too much.
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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2012, 08:03:38 am »
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For the first time for a long long time i am going to post a comment on the forums again.

This is important, even more important is the "threat" from chadz to destroy larger clans. I think you all are wrong.
I realy think strat 4 is allready doing it hard for larger alliances to even function. The reason is that in this strat people have to be more active.
They need all people to do spesific things such as a trader and to have there own army at hand. The supply and demand wil be a key to this strategus.

The first thing in this strat is that there is a link from cRPG to Strategus, and this link with ticks in strategus is realy good becouse it prevents alot of cheating. We all know what happend in strat 2 and 3 from certain groups. My suggestion is to have harder rules within that link with ticket system.

I think that if a player have 0 ticks then he should not be able to trade (buy or sell goods), and that 1 transaction takes away a ticket.

So how does this prevent larger alliances ? Wel look at some former 200 men clans they are down to a 100 now. And most likely they are not more then 30 more or less active players. A simple thing like this will fuck up larger clans and alliances and make them more dependent on the single players skills and his tickets.

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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2012, 08:09:39 am »
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(Temporary) solution for Strat5: Create a completely new map, with new town names, new positions. Shuffle the clans around like shit, better put one clan into the same area, so they have to make their base there. Maybe create a simple diplomacy system where you have to declare war and can only have a few allies.

Last but most important:
Disable chat, teamspeak, email, steam and everything, so no one can communicate and make secret alliances  :mrgreen:

But yeah... current strat is heading into the same two-alliances-war then every before. You see it on every single battle roster. Its always the same clans on the same side. As one of the smaller clans I know we are kinda boned if we don't choose either side, which saddens me. You can't attack a small clan without some big fat alliance behind it.  :(
« Last Edit: September 25, 2012, 08:13:42 am by dodnet »
The logic of war seems to be that if a belligerent can fight he will fight.

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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2012, 08:16:45 am »
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I'm in one of those carebear alliances now and I agree with Teeth. We're gay. We're massively gay. We're more gay than Bearforce1 and Azis combined. I'm dead serious right now.

It's not that I blaim my guys for it, because like NuberT said there, it's the only way to play in EU right now. I hate it to be this way, but eh what can I do.

I'm hoping for chadz or someone else to come up with a nice idea to break up the alliances. I doubt this whole business with the gold bank and looms will work. I'll try to think of something myself and suggest it (already have an idea cooking in my brainz). The state of Strategus is pretty sad right now, even though I like the new fief development and trading mechanics. Such a waste that it adopted the gangbang on little ones metagame from other browser strategy games (I played quite a few of those).

Would be nice to fight in a game without massive alliances. Hell, I wouldn't even mind if we had to break the Fallen Brigade into smaller factions just for Strategus and fight each other as well!
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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2012, 08:55:44 am »
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So far everyone sort of agrees on a couple of things, mega alliances are gay but sadly it's the only way to play Strategus at the moment.
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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2012, 09:20:31 am »
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Bjord... Have you ever been to Poland ? Every polish guy and girl who were educated after communism system felt and achieve at least high school degree can speak english on communicative level. Unless they choose to focus on diffrent language, but still you can't avoid english lessons in Poland.

No, but I'm born in a country with the exact same outlooks. Hungary and Poland have almost the exact same culture. I have even heard several sayings like: "Brothers in wine, brothers in war", referring to the close bond of Hungary and Poland. I like Polish people too, so I'm just like other Hungarians. But in online communities, I believe more in socializing with everyone from other countries than creating a clan with purely Poles etc. If Hungarians were a major population in this community too, we would probably just make another version of Grey army of bots.

Poles in other clans have my respect, because I can imagine how looking at Greys thinking: "I could be with my countrymen and help conquer Strat, they're very powerful and maybe I would get along with them." and still choosing to remain in your clan is sometimes is slightly demoralizing. Or maybe not, what do I know.

Anyway, while you may have no problem with English, I can attest to the many Hungarians in this community that suffer a bit with it and therefore are not very known other than as players. Christo is not one of them, obviously. And I sort of represent two countries so I'm an exception as well. That's the situation with Greys too.

What do you think players with limited English choose? A big clan native to their own language with a reputation of being powerful or a big international clan with reputation of being powerful?
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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2012, 09:40:17 am »
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There will always be whine from the losing side, even if you "destroy" mega alliances. (Isn't possible since there is something called friends.  :).)
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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2012, 09:47:03 am »
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trololol fail post xD
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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2012, 09:48:03 am »
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Om nom nom, they are making alliances in strategus? Oh noes! We free peasants are doomed.
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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2012, 09:51:13 am »
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The Coalition    members128   fiefs 33???? 22????????????????? QQ

Read your quote again...  :rolleyes:

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I counted 22 fiefs that are not under control of one of these carebear blocs and I give those 22 fiefs a week.
The logic of war seems to be that if a belligerent can fight he will fight.

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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2012, 10:05:57 am »
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Poles in other clans have my respect, because I can imagine how looking at Greys thinking: "I could be with my countrymen and help conquer Strat, they're very powerful and maybe I would get along with them." and still choosing to remain in your clan is sometimes is slightly demoralizing. Or maybe not, what do I know.





This is sometimes a topic i discuss with other polish guys in international clans. Also some i think 15 years old kids from pure polish clans (but not Greys in this case) are happy to insult you as a traitor of Poland. But overall i have enought polish people around me in RL and i personally like international communities very much.

What do you think players with limited English choose? A big clan native to their own language with a reputation of being powerful or a big international clan with reputation of being powerful?

As i said you need to finish high school to have ability to speak at communicative language and many guys playing CRPG didn't yet. So obviously they are joining native speakers. You are right on this. Ofcourse it doens't mean that Greys are pure 15 year old clan. It means that younger polish guys have no choice cos they don't know english enought to join international clan.
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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2012, 11:09:31 am »
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Yes, current situation is, once again, shitty as hell. I'm trying very hard to find something to not only crush those big alliances, but nerf big clans into oblivion as hell. Once a 30 guy clan/group/whatever is no longer more dangerous than a 10 guy clan, and clans start splitting up and fight each other, then I'm happy. Before that, I'll swing that feature&nerf hammer so long and hard until I succeed. Strat will have no future until I succeed in that.

I'm not blaming anyone in those factions, although I really don't get why you're playing the way you're playing. My limited experience in previous strat rounds in a carebear faction was like this:
Let's attack!
We can't, they'd crush us!
Then let's attack them!
We can't, they'd have allies that crush us.
So what now?
We find allies ourselves!


Needless to say, the fun was somewhat limited. I can say I never had so much fun as I have in current strat, of course with an expiry date, it's just a matter of time until we get crushed, but, even if it's only for a few days, I prefer having fun in those, than being in a soviet union simulator for half a year.

This is awesome. So far I've had more fun this strat than I ever had during the entire strat 2(we skipped round 3), when we were vassals to 22nd who were allied to Grey and DRZ. Literally nothing happened. Strat 1 is still the most fun one for me.

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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2012, 11:42:28 am »
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Strat 4.0 has a great potential to accommodate large number of clans including medium and small ones. The great wars will come in time. And this game is about the wars, isn't it?

That is where you are plainly wrong. How did strat work out for any of the clans outside the UIF or a different big alliance? They got their asses beat by the bigger alliances. The game is all about numbers, small clans can not compete. Case and point, I counted 22 fiefs outside of the two big carebear alliances, want to bet that you can count them on one hand in two weeks?

I disagree with you about small clans.  The Free Peasants of Fisdnar started out as a one man defense of AI controlled Fisdnar last fall and then from March through now we've only had 6-10 core members and still managed to take two villages, an AI city and place 10th in points for strat 3 ahead of clans with a lot more people.  It's not even about owning fiefs though (only Fisdnar and Rivacheg were difficult to take), it's the fact that even when things went wrong we had fun and always had a goal to work toward.  We all started out strat v.3 as clanless players who learned how to be self sufficient on our own as traders and bandits before working together, so we might also have a different mindset about the game from people who've only played Strategus in more conventional large clans.

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If there were 15k or even just 3k people actively playing strategus there might be potential for more than a two sided large scale conflict.  With our current population and less people signing up for strat battles in prime time, I think the community is just too small for anything like that atm.  Anything is possible though, get enough likeminded people together and it can happen.



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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2012, 12:07:53 pm »
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For the first time for a long long time i am going to post a comment on the forums again.

Buying strategus gold for cRPG Gold.

Pm amount and what you want for it to me and maybe we can agree.
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Re: Well, that was fun
« Reply #59 on: September 25, 2012, 12:09:36 pm »
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Impressive :D

I think he means politically, but who cares anyway? You're focusing on the wrong part of his post. :wink:
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