Well, that was fun

[Olwen]

Here is Thomek's letter from our archives in September 2010 pleading for an alliance to destroy DRZ before they would become too powerful.

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Maybe you should've listened and crushed them before they even got started. You reap what you sow, gents.

As a last ditch effort in strat 1 and to raise some awareness against this threat, we sent out the last of our forces, 2000 men against them to show the spirit of the Ninja Clan. That final day for the  Ninjas of old, there were more Druzhina blood running in the gutters than Ninja blood.

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Ninja_Khorin, Keeper of Traditions in the Ninja Clan

This might be long-time history but Oberyn saved UIF, as Thomek might remember it, back at that time he contacted me for a contract to wipe drz and as i was about to wipe them with my armies moving toward them Oberyn withdrawed my armies to Reyvadin because he thought that we shouldn't get involved and ninjas might not have been able to pay us. Oberyn if you read this, you're a damn carebear

anyway it has always been that way ... templars bloc vs fallens bloc then uif bloc vs others bloc

all i can say is that i'm glad to be neutral and fighting those carebears and morons

FREEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

[Bjord]

all i can say is that i'm glad to be neutral and fighting those carebears and morons

Interesting approach of neutrality, usually that means you don't take any side whatsoever. I guess your small brain found a way, Lolwen.

By the way, don't count on being able to "resist" everyone much longer. Eventually you'll just be squished between both blocs.

[IR_Kuoin]

Some people seem to forget that this is just a game, on the internet, with digital numbers and letters.

[Teeth]

So who is to be blamed here? Russians? Polacks?

I would rather call them DRZ, the Union and Grey Order. Apparently winning is valued so highly that they do whatever it takes and don't give a fuck about fun. They do it for the glory of the motherlfaction. Which kinda ruins the game, cause there is nothing stopping them from forming mega alliances.

I put my only hopes for a truly interesting Strategus on the Nordmen and BashiBazouk to just leave the Greys and DRZ on their own, cause they are already fucking huge. They are not too far gone yet and could probably still make a return to a normal approach to winning. Not DRZ, GO and probably the Union probably, it's just what they do.

Alternatively, one could implement actual diplomacy settings and let factions pay fees for every alliance they have, so having a mega alliance has actual drawbacks. The system would have to be Grey Order proof though, if you know what I mean.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Alternatively, one could implement actual diplomacy settings and let factions pay fees for every alliance they have, so having a mega alliance has actual drawbacks. The system would have to be Grey Order proof though, if you know what I mean.

This'd lead to one big strat faction called "Grey Order and DRZ and Union and BashiBitchzouks and Nordwomen"...

[Miwiw]

This'd lead to one big strat faction called "Grey Order and DRZ and Union and BashiBitchzouks and Nordwomen"...

like the coaloalaoaloaloalooalition right now.

[Bjord]

I would rather call them DRZ, the Union and Grey Order.

Apparently winning is valued so highly that they do whatever it takes and don't give a fuck about fun.

The two are mutually inexclusive. What I mean is, the problem is not the factions themselves but rather the gamer culture inhabiting them. The only three factions that care about winning the most just so happens to be largely Russian or Polish speaking, with extremely limited English capabilities. This "isolative" tendency is highly common with cultures where English is considered unimportant (Brazilian gamers, Spanish Gamers, Korean gamers(IMO the worst), Chinese gamers - all good examples).

I'm not being racist, I'm just saying that Russians and Polacks are very good at games (because a game implies you can win, whether that be in abstract way or concrete way), because to them, winning is EVERYTHING. That makes them very unpleasant. Anyway, nothing you can do about it unless blanket ban Poland/Russia was a solution.

I put my only hopes for a truly interesting Strategus on the Nordmen and BashiBazouk to just leave the Greys and DRZ on their own, cause they are already fucking huge.

I also hope for this. But it's fucking naive to expect it, so I don't. It's just as likely as UIF disbanding and saying: "Hey guys! We're sorry for making Strategus a big fucking blobfest, we just wanted to win so bad! Let's disband and make competition fun once again!"

As long as UIF exists, we will have meta-alliances to counter them. I'm not really complaining because it leads to a lot of BIG battles. If everyone ran loose like your joke faction it would make people lose interest in Strategus.

Alternatively, one could implement actual diplomacy settings and let factions pay fees for every alliance they have, so having a mega alliance has actual drawbacks. The system would have to be Grey Order proof though, if you know what I mean.

Horrible idea. Maybe offers a solution, but it won't change a thing unless you start enforcing to prohibit metagaming, and we all know that won't happen in the future (December 2010). Not now, not ever.

[Thovex]

I see rivers of tears in the eye yet actual strat hasn't even started yet.

Alternatively, one could implement actual diplomacy settings and let factions pay fees for every alliance they have, so having a mega alliance has actual drawbacks. The system would have to be Grey Order proof though, if you know what I mean.

What prevents people from simply not using the features and just play together?

This'd lead to one big strat faction called "Grey Order and DRZ and Union and BashiBitchzouks and Nordwomen"...

See, if you come up with this why on earth do you think the Nords or BashiBazouk will help your side?
Not just you but this kind of child-flaming has happened with several clans that were roflstomped in strat 1, 2, 3.

Yet there is whine on the forums how Nords, Bashis have to turn neutral (We aren't?), help out against UIF, etc?

Use the brains you were given, THEN whine on the forums, PLEASE.

[Miwiw]

Use the brains you were given, THEN whine on the forums, PLEASE.

AIiaiaiia, LINK PLìs!

[Tomas]

like the coaloalaoaloaloalooalition right now.

Yes the Coalition has decided to officially carebear up our long term alliances with HRE and GK but even now at our biggest and having managed to get ALL our members active, we are still smaller than the Grey Order alone was last Strat

Mechanics that limit the power of mega alliances are still being thought about but finding ones that are not exploitable is difficult, especially if we want to preserve the large set piece battles in Strat.

[Teeth]

What prevents people from simply not using the features and just play together?

Might not have formulated it that well, but my approach was just the first thought that popped up in my head and it's not Grey Order proof at all. Main point is, create an ingame system that basically gives mega alliances disadvantages, which is probably possible when given a lot of thought.

Ah well, I'll just stop caring and I'll accept that Strat will never be as awesome as it could be. I'll just leech xp of all the plate vs plate battles in a couple of months and join Corsair as a bandit as soon as my faction gets blocstomped.

[Vovka]

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So if I understand correctly:

Western carebear bloc:
Grey Order
Druzhina
The Union
The Empire
Kingdom of the Nord

Eastern carebear bloc:
The Coalition
Mercs
SoA
Kapikulu
Wolves
Les Troys Lys
Crusader Alliance
CotgS

I counted 22 fiefs that are not under control of one of these carebear blocs and I give those 22 fiefs a week. You guys sure now how to make Strat boring as fuck. Same mega alliance as last time, same claims, but now we have a mega alliance on the other side.

gg

At any time u can take ur faction and leave strat without a fight 
Or try to destroy UIF and create ur own pinky world  without mega alliances and with a bunch of fights 100 vs100 with pitchforks and cudgels

[Teeth]

At any time u can take ur faction and leave strat without a fight 

One in a thousand of GO and DRZ posts in these type of threads. Really shows the one thought you have when it comes to strat and also proves my point. Although I appreciate the attempts at comedy you do, instead of the blatant bragging by others.

Another solution just popped up into my mind. A seperate strat for GO, DRZ and whoever shares their mentality. Let them abuse eachother to death for the glory of their motherlands and let the rest of us have a much more interesting experience.

[Erasmas]

Now, this is a big time bullshit. If you were asked to judge Strat by the posts in this thread you would come to equally smart conclusions as the alien asked to say what the airplanes are for by watching TV - carrying celebrities and crashing. Everyone is playing Strat for fun, not to win, obviously except for Druzhina, Union, Grey Order, Bashi and Nords... That's pathetic.

Any game's purpose is to entertain, and any player's purpose is to win, or at least to try to win - otherwise it is not a game at all. I said that before and I am ready to repeat that any time - the beauty of Strategus is based on personal relations. Call it a ... team-play, is that a good word?.  Just try to build something yourself - create the clan, convince people to trust you, follow you as a leader. Try to find a trustworthy ally. It is a difficult, time consuming, yet rewarding task. Entertaining job.  Not for you? Aaaaah, so you prefer crying that the "game is bad"? Because some play to win? Pity. If you spend enough time and effort building an alternative to what you call "carebear alliances", you would find that is is not impossible. But that would mean that you want to win too, right? Oh, sorry, no - you would do it for fun. LOL. 

Strat 4.0 has a great potential to accommodate large number of clans including medium and small ones. The great wars will come in time. And this game is about the wars, isn't it?

[Olwen]

Interesting approach of neutrality, usually that means you don't take any side whatsoever.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Neutral

a retard trying to teach me something, fun